Two comments:

First: This list is alive and well.

Second:  I have several Mac IIci which I use for
spares.  After testing, one was stored in situ hooked
up to its monitor.  One day, out of the blue, it
turned on by itself.  I turned it off the menu and it
would immediately turn on again.  After several such
repititions, I then turned it off using the button in
the rear of the CPU.  Same thing happened.

Now I have a reason: a bad PRAM battery





--- Ryan Schmidt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 20.03.2005, at 08:52, Jeffrey Bergier wrote:
> 
> > Does anyone know what I am doing wrong.  Or is
> this just a bad floppy 
> > drive?
> 
> Bad floppy drive or misaligned floppy drive is one
> possible 
> explanation. But it's also possible, and perhaps
> likely, that you 
> cannot create a valid boot disk for such an old
> computer with the 
> equipment you have at your disposal on your new
> computer. I've never 
> worked with USB floppy drives, for example, so I
> have no idea if 
> they're capable of setting the boot blocks on the
> floppy drive in order 
> to bless its System Folder. Or it's possible that
> Mac OS X's Disk Copy 
> (10.0-10.2) or Disk Utility (10.3+) programs or the
> command line 
> "bless" utility cannot bless floppies, or cannot
> bless such ancient 
> operating systems.
> 
> If I were trying to make a boot disk for an older
> Mac, I'd use a Mac 
> with a built-in Apple floppy drive (any Power Mac up
> to and including 
> the Power Mac G3 beige, any Performa, any Mac II,
> any Mac LC) and 
> System 7 thru Mac OS 9. I'd use Disk Copy 6.3.3's
> "Make a floppy" 
> command to copy the downloaded disk image's contents
> to the floppy 
> disk. That should work. If I didn't have a disk
> image, then I'd format 
> the floppy in the Finder, copy the files to it in
> the Finder, then open 
> the System Folder on the floppy, then open the
> System file, then close 
> both of these windows. That should bless the System
> Folder.
> 
> Following either of these methods, I would assume
> the disk should be 
> able to boot the older Mac. If it does not, then the
> floppy drive may 
> in fact be bad.
> 
> > and on a separate note, there is a video card
> installed in the system
> > and the monitor only works when i plug it into the
> video card.... the
> > built in display plug does not seem to be working.
>  I even tried
> > removing the video card but it still did nothing.
> 
> I agree with Byron -- you cannot connect a normal PC
> VGA monitor to an 
> older Mac's built-in video with a standard
> Mac-to-VGA adapter because 
> the video output is not compatible. I believe this
> affects the entire 
> Mac II line (those that have built-in video, that is
> -- and probably 
> also older NuBus video cards you could install into
> these machines). I 
> believe at that time "sync on green" was used; it's
> possible you could 
> find an adapter to convert sync on green to
> VGA-compatible signals, but 
> it's probably easier to just use the video card you
> already have. If 
> you need a second monitor, investigate the adapter,
> or get a second 
> newer NuBus video card.
> 
> > And on another separate note, when the power is
> plugged in it turns on
> > without touching the on button.  Nor have i found
> a way to turn it off
> > without just unplugging it.  Is this normal?
> 
> Byron's suggestion that the power button may be set
> to always-on is one 
> that I hadn't thought of, and it's worth checking.
> If that's not it, 
> what jumped into my head was that the PRAM battery
> may be dead, which 
> would not be surprising for a machine you found in a
> garage. If you do 
> get the machine booted up, you can check its clock;
> if it's way in the 
> past, then the battery is probably dead, and you
> should replace it.
> 
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