On Tue, Feb 05, 2013 at 01:42:57PM -0800, David Strauss wrote: > In the spirit of "proudly invented elsewhere," Python uses log message > "levels" and filters by minimum severity as the "effective level." The > reason I prefer "verbosity" to "level" is that level discards any > suggestion of the values having an ordering useful for > inequality-based comparison. Why? Higher level, lower level, the term "level" is _very_ strongly tied to (vertical) ordering. Also, height-related methaphors are one of the most common in all languages, so using "level" makes the metaphor easy.
I prefer 'level' much more, mainly because, like you said, it's the program that is verbose. And also because it's shorter. Zbyszek > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 1:37 PM, David Strauss <da...@davidstrauss.net> wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 4, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Lennart Poettering > > <lenn...@poettering.net> wrote: > >> If we choose the latter, would "verbosity" really be the best choice? I > >> am not a native english speaker, but to me this sounds much broader than > >> "priority" or "level" do? > > > > I suggested it for two reasons: > > > > * There's a long history of command-line -v switches to increase > > verbosity, often to the point where having enough (-vvvvvv) logs or > > outputs at the debug level. So, it's a familiar term in the Unix > > world. > > * It makes semantic sense with the integer values. The value of > > LOG_DEBUG is greater than LOG_WARNING, and the "verbosity" of an > > application displaying LOG_DEBUG (and more important) is higher than > > one displaying LOG_WARNING (and more important). > > > > The only thing I don't like about calling the argument "verbosity" is > > that, English-wise, the *program* is verbose, not the log messages > > themselves. But, I can't think of anything better. > > > >> Maybe call it "7-minus-priority" or so? ;-) > > > > It's certainly better than the normal antonyms of "priority," like > > "unimportance" or "irrelevance." > > > > -- > > David Strauss > > | da...@davidstrauss.net > > | +1 512 577 5827 [mobile] > > > > -- > David Strauss > | da...@davidstrauss.net > | +1 512 577 5827 [mobile] > _______________________________________________ > systemd-devel mailing list > systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org > http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel > _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
