On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:41:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: > 2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Biebl <mbi...@gmail.com>: > > 2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH <gre...@linuxfoundation.org>: > > > >> You update systemd but you don't update the kernel? How does that make > >> any sense? > > > > There might be very valid reasons why you need to stick with the old > > kernel. As said, one example could be that the new one simply doesn't > > boot. Requiring lock-step upgrades makes the system less > > fault-tolerant. > > So where possible this should be avoided. > > What I'm trying to say here is: let's rip this code out once all > stable distros out there in the wild ship a kernel with builti-in > firmware loader support, but please not before.
What is "all"? Do we really have to wait 10+ years just because some random disto doesn't want to update their kernel? Since when does systemd care about what random distros do? > Keeping the userspace firmware loader for a little longer costs us > nothing and simplifies things for downstreams. So let's be nice to > them. I don't see a good reason to rush the removal of the userspace > firmware loader. Why not just port the in-kernel firmware loader to those kernel versions? That solves more problems than sticking with this code does... thanks, greg k-h _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel