2014-05-30 6:02 GMT+02:00 Greg KH <gre...@linuxfoundation.org>: > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 05:00:34AM +0200, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote: >> On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 07:51:29PM -0700, Greg KH wrote: >> > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 04:41:01AM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: >> > > 2014-05-30 4:32 GMT+02:00 Michael Biebl <mbi...@gmail.com>: >> > > > 2014-05-30 4:26 GMT+02:00 Greg KH <gre...@linuxfoundation.org>: >> > > > >> > > >> You update systemd but you don't update the kernel? How does that >> > > >> make >> > > >> any sense? >> > > > >> > > > There might be very valid reasons why you need to stick with the old >> > > > kernel. As said, one example could be that the new one simply doesn't >> > > > boot. Requiring lock-step upgrades makes the system less >> > > > fault-tolerant. >> > > > So where possible this should be avoided. >> > > >> > > What I'm trying to say here is: let's rip this code out once all >> > > stable distros out there in the wild ship a kernel with builti-in >> > > firmware loader support, but please not before. >> > >> > What is "all"? >> > >> > Do we really have to wait 10+ years just because some random disto >> > doesn't want to update their kernel? >> > >> > Since when does systemd care about what random distros do? >> It should. I'd hardly call Debian a random distro. > > It's a slow moving distro. If it takes 5 years for their next stable > release, why should we be forced to maintain code that no one else uses?
As a responsible and serious upstream project I expect us to not gratiously break our downstream users, especially if it can be easily avoided. And as already said, the maintenance cost is basically zero. -- Why is it that all of the instruments seeking intelligent life in the universe are pointed away from Earth? _______________________________________________ systemd-devel mailing list systemd-devel@lists.freedesktop.org http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel