Am 10.06.2014 18:01, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Tue, 10.06.14 13:24, Leho Kraav (l...@kraav.com) wrote: >> On 10.06.2014 13:20, Lennart Poettering wrote: >>> On Mon, 09.06.14 09:33, Leho Kraav (l...@kraav.com) wrote: >>> >>>> After upgrading systemd 208 -> 212, every single cron job creates >>>> this flood in systemd journal: >>> >>>> Can I quiet this down somehow? >>> >>> The idea with the journal is that we log everything that happens on the >>> system, without exceptions, without hiding anything. And filtering is >>> then applied when you view things, based on the big pool of data you >>> have. This can be annoying, of course, but I am so very sure we should't >>> suppress these things, because soemtimes they are useful to know about. >>> >>> journalctl has powerful filtering capabilities, we have them to make >>> this huge datase palatable... >>> >> >> I'm actually all for getting the upstream i.e. cron/PAM acting more >> sane so we don't even arrive at the "logging huge amounts of >> low-effectiveness information" problem, but as you wrote in your >> other reply, that might be a whole separate project. >> >> In the meantime mgilbert's suggestion for using loginctl --linger >> parameter seems to accomplish the goal of quieting cron logging. Any >> side effects to consider? > > Well, you keep the systemd user instance running all the time then > instead of just when it is used... Doing that for root is fine, but if > you do that for all users, then well, you got an additional process > running for each one of them...
which is cheaper than fire up a complete session again and again with all the logs recent systemd generates and you *already* have long running processes for each user ever started a cronjob also under Fedora 20 which don't flood the logs otherwise they already annoy me a lot because the last decades that all was not there and cronjobs where just fine vmware 4030 0.0 0.0 74208 2064 ? S Jun08 0:00 (sd-pam) harry 4351 0.0 0.0 74208 2132 ? S Jun08 0:00 (sd-pam) root 9806 0.0 0.0 74208 2208 ? S Jun08 0:00 (sd-pam) wwwcron 10894 0.0 0.0 74208 2224 ? S Jun08 0:00 (sd-pam) apache 10918 0.0 0.0 74208 2236 ? S Jun08 0:00 (sd-pam)
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