>>>>> "Martin" == Martin Pitt <[email protected]> writes:

    Martin> So we either need the journal.conf.d/ feature and have 
journal-pulling
    Martin> sysloggers disable forwarding along the way, or we need to wait 
until
    Martin> all packaged sysloggers can read from the journal before we turn off
    Martin> forwarding by default.

For what its worth, syslog-ng upstream suggested another solution, that
appears to fix the issue (but I've yet to test it myself): if the
syslog-ng.service file does *not* Require=syslog.socket, then the
syslog.socket does not get started, and if it doesn't get started, the
journal will not do forwarding, either, and thus, the error messages
disappear too.

If this works (and I was assured it does), then no change is neccessary
in systemd itself, and I can trivially patch up the syslog-ng.service
file.

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