>>>>> "Lennart" == Lennart Poettering <[email protected]> writes:

    >> Forwarding is enabled by default on Debian, as I wrote in my original
    >> mail. I have no control over the default, and I have no desire to argue
    >> for changing it. There are other syslogds in Debian (including the
    >> default one) that do not read from the Journal, but rely on forwarding.
    >> If forwarding was turned off, they'd stop working. Older versions of
    >> syslog-ng would, too.

    Lennart> "other syslogds"? Which ones just out of curiosity? If both 
syslog-ng
    Lennart> and rsyslog can now read directly from the journal I wonder what 
other
    Lennart> syslog implementation debian wants to support there...

There's a handful of syslogds, including busybox-syslogd, and the
ancient sysklogd, among other things. Furthermore, we want to support
upgrades that continue running sysvinit, so we can't make the journal
reader default (unless the syslogd can - like syslog-ng - figure out
which one to use at run time). (iirc the default rsyslog.conf uses
/dev/log, and rsyslog translates that to /run/systemd/journal/syslog if
it detects systemd, thus preserving compatibility.)

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