On 6/2/2016 11:28 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 02.06.2016 um 19:24 schrieb JB:
On 6/2/2016 11:01 AM, Reindl Harald wrote:

Am 02.06.2016 um 18:50 schrieb Greg KH:
On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 06:29:50PM +0200, Reindl Harald wrote:


Am 02.06.2016 um 18:20 schrieb Greg KH:
Ok, but please ask on a fedora list as this is a fedora specific
issue,
as it is running a very old version of systemd as well as the
kernel, so
there's not much we can do here either

you must confuse Fedora with other distributions in context of "as
well as
the kernel" because of 4.5.6-200.fc23.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jun 1
21:28:20 UTC
2016

OP stated they were using Fedora 21 and the 3.18 kernel, what does that
have to do with Fedora 23 and the 4.5.6 kernel?

well, i overlooked that someone posts problems with a long ago EOL
distribution which should not have contact to any network at all

hence the proper response would have not been "fedora specific issue"
but "you don't run any usable system at all"

That is pretty damn presumptuous

really?

only when you are not aware that i run our complete infsrastructure and dozens of servers for 8 years on Fedora and *never* had a EOL machine running

if you can't manage dist-upgrades in that frequency just don#t install a operating systems which requires you to do so - that's it

Yes, really. It's really damn presumptuous to assume that whatever few dozen servers you manage can and should represent every single other scenario, use case, application, and environment all over the rest of the world and "that's it." You can yell, scream, insult my intelligence, and all the other manner of bullying I've seen come out of the people behind this project which, IMHO is the primary contributor to all the divisiveness experienced in the open source community over systemd. I don't expect you to believe me or listen, or frankly even care about other users out there but I do hope you will at least consider that there is reality beyond your world. I fully expect some insulting arrogant dismissive or insulting blow off so you can have the last word or whatever, but I will no longer feed this thread as it is not productive.
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