"And I can see how to, but I'll leave that to those who know 
better, which is neither of us."

Jayson Blair couldn't have said it better.

malmo

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard McCann
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2003 5:51 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: P.F.Talbot; T&FMail List
Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: more or less cheating


Take it up with Dick Pound.  He seems to think the problem is 
solvable.  (And I can see how to, but I'll leave that to those who know 
better, which is neither of us.)

RMc

At 03:24 PM 10/27/2003 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>I don't know how many drug tests you've ever had Richard, perhaps you
>could explain how COC is preserved AFTER the sample has been opened?
>
>There's only one way that I can think of: that the 
>athlete/representative
>be present during the opening (as is the option on the B sample) and,
MOST 
>IMPORTANT, the resealing and re-certification of the now open B sample.
>
>Perhaps I missed something?
>
>malmo
>
>
>
>
> > From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Date: 2003/10/27 Mon PM 02:10:03 CST
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > CC: "P.F.Talbot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
> >    "T&FMail List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: Re: Re: t-and-f: more or less cheating
> >
> > I think that's one of the issues to be addressed.  Dick Pound claims

> > that issue can be solved, but the question is whether physical 
> > preservation possible for extended periods.
> >
> > RMc
> >
> > At 12:14 PM 10/27/2003 -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Good idea, BUT.... how is the chain of custody preserved once the 
> > >samples have been opened?
> > >
> > >malmo
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > From: Richard McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: 2003/10/27 Mon AM 10:59:44 CST
> > > > To: "P.F.Talbot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > CC: (T&FMail List) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: more or less cheating
> > > >
> > > > At 04:39 PM 10/24/2003 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote:
> > > > >Date: Thu, 23 Oct 2003 12:08:41 -0600
> > > > >From: "P.F.Talbot" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > >Subject: t-and-f: more or less cheating
> > > > >
> > > > >Okay I am a cynic, but does anyone else think that the current
> scandal
> > > will
> > > > >lead to MORE cheating, not less.  Doesn't this raise the bar to
> the level
> > > > >where those who use drugs will want a designer steroid.
> > > >
> > > > There was an article from the Denver Post, rerun in the Sacto 
> > > > Bee on Sunday, where there's a push lead by Frank Shorter to 
> > > > preserve
> urine and
> > > > blood samples for several years, even "indefinitely," and to
> periodically
> > > > retest these samples as new drugs are discovered.  Medalists 
> > > > could
> then be
> > > > stripped retroactively for violations out to a 3 to 8 year 
> > > > statute of limitations.  The political support for this option 
> > > > is probably growing rapidly right now.
> > > >
> > > > Retroactive testing could be a huge deterrent for designer 
> > > > drugs, particularly since opposing coaches would know exactly 
> > > > who to
> target and
> > > > expose ex post.
> > > >
> > > > Richard McCann
> > > >
> > > >
> >
> >


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