At 09:40 PM 10/28/2003 -0500, malmo wrote:
This embellishment thing is getting tiresome. I've yet to hear of a band
of vigilantes wanting penalties without a hearing.

Unfortunately, you must not be reading the messages posted on this listserve. There have been innumerable calls for athletes to be banned immediately upon certification of the B test, WITHOUT a hearing. We've had long discussions about the legitimacy of relying solely on scientific tests as proof without regards to other facts. For example, my post retrieved by Martin Dixon recently that revived this thread was in direct response to just such a call.


 Most of us are just
getting damn tired of these "depends of what the menaing of is is"
defenses.

There you go again trying to pull up extraneous accusations that have absolutely nothing to do with the actual discussion. That's what many of us are getting tired of....



Many of us disagree with you, and believe an open process the only way
to go.

And I was pointing out what the problems are with your proposal. If you have a problem with people who criticize your "pie in the sky" ideas, then maybe you should not engage in a discussion, but rather just simply publish these thoughts on a website and prohibit any responses. Apparently you have a problem with dissent.


RMc




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