850 roaming is truly only available where T-Mobile doesn't have coverage.
They will indicate on the coverage map where they will have roaming
available. You can't force 850 roaming in most cases, either you have it or
you don't. Many phones don't even let you see which band you are using. You
may see another carrier's logo on your phone display but that also depends
on the roaming agreements in place.

For example I know that some parts of "native" T-mobile coverage are really
areas where T-Mobile has negotiated coverage with the carrier for a
particular area. In these same areas if you were to manually select a
carrier you would see both T-Mobile and the roaming carrier. I know I've
been able to select both in some of these areas. Of course just outside the
"covered" area the phone will switch to the roaming carrier's logo and so
on.

Frankly I'm surprised you analog sleeve still works. T-Mobile supposedly had
discontinued that service some time ago. In fact I had been told by people
that had the sleeve that it no longer worked. Maybe you were one of the
lucky ones.

850 roaming is digital roaming so in many cases, but not all, you will have
all or most of your services you would normally. Text messages will always
come in but you may not be able to browse online, receive mms or otherwise
have data services. Data services aren't an issue with an older phone like
the 6190 but newer phones would have these options.


Matthew Stevens

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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Sirrobyn0
Sent: Friday, September 07, 2007 1:50 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [T-Mobile-US] 850 mhz GSM Roaming questions

I'm mostly just a lurker here, but I'm considering upgrading my 
phone and would like to ask a few questions from people more 
knowledgable than I about the newer equipment.  First let me tell 
you what I'm using now, so you know where I'm at. I use a Nokia 6190 
with Analog sleave and analog roaming, so you can tell I've been 
with T-mobile since the Voicestream days.  I actually signed up in 
1999.  So I'm a little out of the loop on the newer technology.  
What I'd like to know is the 850mhz roaming in the rural areas 
anywhere as good as the old analog roaming coverage wise?  On the 
newer phones can you force them to search for 850mhz, and last is 
there anyway to know that you are roaming on 850mhz or does it just 
say the network name in the phone screen like when your roaming on 
1900mhz? Since cellular  
providers are no longer required to keep there analog networks up 
after the first part of 2008 I figure I better look into other 
roaming options.  I use the Analog Roaming alot when I'm in the 
Rural areas of eastern Washington.


Thanks,

Rob



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