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Actually, SFF is very different from T13. SFF is designed to allow quick
publication of documents, not documents that are thoroughly reviewed to the
same standard as T13 standards (which is why the latter are standards).
Specifically, I don't think SFF has (or had) a formal public comment period
like T13 has as part of the standards review.
Even after first approval of a standard, if someone sends a letter with
comments to the T13 chairman then that letter will be addressed by the
committee (as usual, no guarantee they will agree). Indeed, some members of
the committee use this mechanism for most of their detailed feedback on the
standard (preferring to wait until after the "dust clears" with the first
approval).
Jim
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Yet another "Secret Society".
TC
On Monday, May 21, 2001, at 09:29 AM, Hale Landis wrote:
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> On Mon, 21 May 2001 08:07:31 -0700, Eschmann, Michael K wrote:
>> Come on Don, Please read ALL of both sides. Hale believes that his
>> messages
>> were ignored, but if you would read more than your point of view, Dal
>> Allan
>> indicates that his messages did not come in while SFF8020 was being
>> worked
>> and voted on. If I may quote Dal: "Once the horse is out of the barn,
>> closing the door does not help". MKE.
>
> Do be too hard on Don. He actually has it right. Just to set the
> record straight: At the time of the SFF-8020 revision 2.x development
> I was not a member of SFF and I was not working for a SFF member
> company. But during that time I did review most of the SFF-8020 draft
> documents, probably posted messages to the SFF reflector about
> problems in those documents. AND I sent private emails to the two
> people listed as the editors of SFF-8020. I might even have some of
> those emails on my old 386 system. As I said, I never received a
> single response and none of the problems I pointed out (except the
> SRST/DASP- problem) were ever fixed. And T13 is still fussing over
> some of those very same problems today, some 6+ years later.
>
> I don't really care what the "official" record says with respect to
> this because all of this happened "outside" of meetings and prior to
> the letter ballot Dal talks about. We all know that most of the work
> of a committee like SFF or T13 or T10 is done outside of meetings and
> all you see in the committe minutes and letter ballot comments is the
> most abreviated description of what happened.
>
> For example, look at the minutes for the last T13 meeting (April
> 2001). I don't disagree with the desciption of the ATAPI discussion
> (item iv), and I know it would be difficult to capture everything
> that was said in a two hour discussion, but the description in the
> minutes is a very short summary of what happened. And I just noticed
> that those minutes don't include anything about the long discussion
> of ATAPI command sets that I count as part of the two hour ATAPI
> discussion. So going back 6 years to the minutes of SFF meetings and
> to the letter ballot comments for an SFF document is not going to
> give you even the slightest clue as to what really happened.
>
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