On Mon, 27 Sep 2010 04:14:19 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > On Mon, Sep 27, 2010 at 3:48 AM, David Paleino > <da...@debian.org> wrote: > > On Sun, 26 Sep 2010 21:26:27 -0400, Nathan Edgars II wrote: > > > >> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features%2FIce_cream&action=historysubmit&diff=532984&oldid=531944 > >> This doesn't seem quite right. > > > > 27-18 + 1 abstain, seems an "approved" to me. Controversial, yes, but > > approved. > > A vote that starts out with almost all approves and ends up with > almost all opposes is not controversial but fishy. The line between > most approves and most opposes is when it was posted to this list; in > other words most approve votes were made before it was announced. > Almost every one of those approves is by someone living in Italy, > which suggests discussion on the Italian mailing list or other > discussion among a small group in an echo chamber. Once it was > belatedly announced here, most new voters opposed it. It's very > possible that the outcome would have been different had it been > announced here promptly (or, to be fair, it may have been the same, > with the Italian bloc voting the same way).
How would you call then shop=ice_cream, sneaked in the wiki without any discussion or voting or anything else? > And now we have a tag that replaces all ice cream places, thus > providing less information than the former amenity=cafe/fast_food/etc. > cuisine=ice_cream. How is this a good thing? You can tag whatever way you like. If you think that amenity=cafe/fast_food/... + cuisine= is better, just use it. AIUI "Map features" are just "suggestions". Also, I believe the icecream tagging should be improved. There are places selling icecreams, but not mainly them, so I'd suggest using "ice_cream=yes" (also to avoid multivalue). Say, amenity=cafe, ice_cream=yes (a cafe also selling wrapped icecreams is different from an icecream parlour, selling self-made icecream). On a related note: me and some other people on #osm-it were thinking about re-organizing the "food" tagging (take "food" as an example in the following). Something like: amenity=food + food=cafe|fast_food|restaurant|... This way, we would avoid the amenity "overcrowding", and have a more structured tagging scheme. However, we couldn't find a proper value for amenity= (in place of the above "food") to make a draft proposal. Maybe "catering", but none of us liked it either. Ideas? (sorry for hijacking the thread, but I feel it's a good place/time to talk about it) -- . ''`. Debian developer | http://wiki.debian.org/DavidPaleino : :' : Linuxer #334216 --|-- http://www.hanskalabs.net/ `. `'` GPG: 1392B174 ----|---- http://deb.li/dapal `- 2BAB C625 4E66 E7B8 450A C3E1 E6AA 9017 1392 B174
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