Hi Martin,

Am Dienstag, 26. Juni 2012, 12:43:10 schrieb Martin Vonwald:
> The tag maxspeed=signals doesn't carry any useful information in this
> situation. If I tag those speed limits with this tag we completely
> lose the information that on this part(s) of the motorway one usually
> can drive 100km/h and not 130km/h. So is this tag really a good idea
> in this case? I understand that this might be necessary on roads where
> the speed limit changes frequently, e.g. at some specific times.

here's another example: motorway A 100 in Berlin has maxspeed signs that might 
change between 80 and 60, depending on traffic conditions [1], and is therefore 
tagged maxspeed=signals. If route calculation just takes the default maxspeed 
for motorways, it will end up with maxspeed=none, which is way off. Also, a 
routing program could warn the driver if he's going more than 80.

First of all, the problems we're actually trying to solve:
a. Route calculation needs a tentative maxspeed on roads with dynamic speed 
limits
b. Speed warning needs an absolute maxspeed on roads with dynamic speed limits 
to prevent the driver from speeding when possible (it is not acceptable if the 
software warns on a limit that's too low)

I believe the difference between tentative maxspeed and absolute maxspeed is 
small enough to justify that we just assume tentative maxspeed = absolute 
maxspeed.

Problems we should avoid:
a. Static speed information that depends on conditions known to a routing 
software or the driver (time of day, weather, children present). They are 
covered by the extended conditions proposal.
b. "Dynamic" speed information that is in fact not dynamic (speed signs that 
are programmed to show specific speed signs at specific times). They are also 
covered by the extended conditions proposal. (Correctly identifying a "dynamic" 
sign as static can be quite difficult, though.)

Eckhart

[1] http://goo.gl/maps/uyQz

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