On 2012-09-17 16:05, Richard Mann wrote :
It looks like it's just inside the village (commune?) boundary. Maybe they mean the whole village?No, that would stop commerce on the very much important N633 through Esneux. Behind the scene if you want to know, understand the word hush, is that madame la bourgmestre developed a special dislike of trafic coming from here. The sole goal of the road sign is to force her neigbour commune to divert that traffic down to N633 through the route de Méry, which is much narrower, winding and bordered with ravines. That cost more that her sign: changing direction signs, placing retention rails plus the vehicles testing them. But, beside the political issue having little place here, is my phrase "what does that highway code tell us about C23 after all?", starting the OSM issue. According to that code, C23 is a node sign. On 2012-09-17 16:40, Martin Vonwald wrote : If I understood André correct, there is only one sign. So there is no "area within" unless you want to add the whole world ;-)Correct, single sign, and madame la bourgmestre herself cannot describe the area (but she might have a plan to rule the world ;-)). On 2012-09-17 16:25, Eckhart Wörner wrote : In this C23 case, heavy vehicles are forbidden to go to Esneux, not to leave it.Am Montag, 17. September 2012, 16:04:19 schrieb Martin Vonwald:My two cents: we should allow such kind of restriction to be placed on a node, because that's the way they work. They are just some kind of "legal barrier" and barriers on a road we (usually) map as a node.that wouldn't solve the problem; vehicles are forbidden to pass the legal barrier coming from both sides. Technically, it would be more of a turn restriction. In any case, the extended conditions/conditional access debate has to be solved first, because otherwise the combination of signs is a problem in itself. That would be extra fun; you have understood that, politically, the restriction is before the sign. One way restriction. And, to me, a node restriction. No relations, please, no thanks. The relation with the extended cond* prompted me to hasten my posting.
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