Paul Johnson <ba...@ursamundi.org> wrote: > Sharrow markings are typically (and properly) only found on bicycle > routes > that do not have dedicated bicycle lanes, and bicycle boulevards. > cycleway=shared_lane in the US, save for locales that Did Not Get the > Memo™, should also have bicycle=designated and be a member of the > appropriate type=route, route=bicycle relation. > > > On Sat, Jan 12, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Greg Troxel <g...@ir.bbn.com> wrote: > > > > > Balgofil <balgo...@gmx.net> writes: > > > > > 1. "Radfahrstreifen": cycle lanes which are mandatory indicated by > a > > > sign and a solid lane (cycleway=lane) > > > > > > 2. "Schutzstreifen" cycle lanes with dashed lines not so wide as > a > > > "Radfahrstreifen" and therefore only advisory and no sign > (cycleway=?) > > > > I think the most important thing is to define the semantics of what > is > > required. One problem (feature?) of OSM tagging is that there are a > lot > > of implicit defaults, and these make it hard to use the data. I > think > > we should be gradually defining the implicit tags (in the main tag > wiki > > page, not in the database). By that I mean things like > highway=footway > > implies motorcar=no. > > > > It sounds like Radfahrstreifen means that a cyclist may not ride on > the > > road outside the lane. But with Schutzstreifen, a cyclist may ride > on > > the road to the left of the dashed line. Or by mandatory do you > mean > > that cars are prohibited from crossing the solid (white?) line into > > Radfahrstreifen but not prohibited from crossing the dashed line > into a > > Schutzstreifen? > > > > In the US, cycle lanes on roads seem to usually have solid white > lines, > > with dashed lines for turning places. I am unclear on whether there > are > > restrictions on cyclists in various states (in MA, I don't believe > so, > > beyond the standard rule that cyclists must ride as far to the right > as > > can be done safely, which is usually less far than cars think :-). > But > > I think cars are prohibited from driving in cycle lanes - I did see > a > > Big Brother sign exhorting cars to stay out. > > > > In the US, my impression is that sharrows are just a reminder to > > everyone of the normal rules which always apply and have no real > > significance. In that respect, they are kind of like signs that say > > "Please drive nicely", or "Check twice; motorcyles are everywhere.". > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
The typical pattern here in Nashville, Tennessee, USA is for designated bicycle routes to have dedicated bicycle lanes mid-block, and sharrows at intersections, rather than have motorized traffic turn across a bicycle lane that is outside of the turn lane. -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com "Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all." -- Hypatia of Alexandria
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