It might be good to see if any of these ideas are in use, despite lack of documentation. https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/landuse
A couple potentially useful tags I noticed scanning through the list of landuse=* values were 1) landuse=religious has 1100 uses 2) landuse=school and landuse=education both have hundreds of uses--might be good to recommend one or the other? 3) landuse=leisure is used more often than landuse=recreation right now (477 v. 62) 4) interestingly, landuse=institution is not used at all, but landuse=institutional a bit (68 uses) Among the other landuse=* values, there might be some ideas to pick up on, or others which we'd like to avoid. Cheers, Brad On Tue, Mar 18, 2014 at 3:38 AM, johnw <jo...@mac.com> wrote: > > On Mar 17, 2014, at 10:49 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > 2014-03-16 23:11 GMT+01:00 Eugene Alvin Villar <sea...@gmail.com>: > >> I'd like to clarify what I said before that landuse=civic_admin would be >> useful. It would be useful for tagging the only the compounds where >> government offices are located (townhall, courthouse, etc.). I am not >> suggesting that schools and hospitals would use the same >> landuse=civic_admin tag. > > > +1, I agree that we COULD have some new landuse values, there is a lot of > stuff that isn't yet covered by > > the well introduced landuses, including: > > > This is a great post of yours. It really got me thinking about solving > this, and this civic_admin stuff. > > Just thinking while typing here. in hindsight, landuse=institution is > really useful with a subtag after typing all this. > > About half of these tags can be covered with landuse=institution. > > > churches and other religion related areas > > > > landuse=institution + institution= religion (or straight landuse=religion) > > there are a lot of religious areas in Japan that have a really big area > with a lot of little, unnamed buildings, gardens, event areas, and other > stuff to go with the main shrines. Moreover, the shrines themselves have > separate names - but the complex has it's own big famous name as well (Ex: > Asakusa in Tokyo) - so a separate landuse for religion is a great tag. > Also: we need to update the icons for the religions in -carto as well > (there is no Japanese buddhist symbol, for example, and the shinto one is > overly detailed compared to the others). > > > theatres and cinemas, > > restaurants and nightclubs > > > landuse=retail amenity=restaurant/cinema/discotek (sp) *or* > landuse=entertainment + entertainment=[type]. > > also mixes into institution=arts_centre. To me the line is live people > performance and commerical art (cinema) is in entertainment, and exibition > of cultural art (art gallery/ museum) is in institution, but I dunno. > > This overlaps into a lot of different tagging systems. Hopefully subtags > can unify it without the need for retagging. This is a messy problem. > > mixed use (like you'll find for instance in the centre of the typical > european city) > > > Shops downstairs, residential upstairs, right? > > landuse=urban_mixed_use (as opposed to a mixed use business park > [retail+commercial]) > > courthouses > > > Jails & Prisons too? landuse=institution + institution=judicial The > police side is mentioned below. > > parliaments and city counsels (and the levels in between) as well as > supranational "decision making" > > > Landuse=institution + institution=civic_assembly > > it could cover everything from a city council to the UN building. > > institutions > > museums > > > Landuse=institution + institution=museum / gallery / arts_centre *or* > tourism=museum or proposed =art gallery / amenity=arts_centre ... > > > hospitals and clinics > > > > landuse=institution + institution=medical (or, of course Landuse=medical), > as opposed to hospital. would cover chiropractic clinics, pharmacies, > dentists, orthodontists, maybe even veterinary. existing amenity= or shop= > would would work fine, or use medical= subtag. using the institution here > here seems weak though. > > public administration (with and without public access) > > > landuse=institution + institution=civic_office > > this would solve all my "civic_admin" troubles. could cover the white > house down to townhalls and all the depts in between. > > > It's brother would be landuse=institution institution=civic_service(s)?+ > existing amenity of choice, > > public services like police, fire, plow stations, (ambulance 'station' > too?) border patrol, immigration, park ranger stations, customs areas, the > fruit and vegetable check areas on the highways between states (in the US), > Some of these are privately operated, but it is "for the public good." > > > universities and schools and colleges > > > landuse=institution + institution=education (or straight > Landuse=education). covers just about everything, from a preschool to > driving school to flight school to Jukus (private tutoring schools - "cram > schools" like kumon or EFL schools) - where we really wouldn't want it > tagged as amenity=school (I don't think). education=[type] also a > possibility. amenity=school, to me, always is k-12. College or university > is higher ed, the remainder could fall into this tag. > > hotels etc. > > > landuse=hospitality + hospitality=[type] or the amenity=[type], like > beach_resort (or the missing ski_resort) this could cover anything from a > hostel or motel to casino or disneyland's hotel area ringing the parks. > > There is a lot of hospitality things that are covered, but a few glaring > omissions exist in amenity, like how to tag a skiing park - there is > nothing to denote the actual landuse of the ski resort area (like there > would be for a zoo, theme park, or other tourist attraction). > > Hospitality is the official name for the industry of hotels and such, so > it seems a good fit. > > sports related areas > > > landuse=recreation? > > does this mean stadiums for professional exhibition, or like a > sports_centre or a skateboard park? > > water supply and waste water treatment > > > landuse=water_management. a tag for the off limits land around reservoirs? > Where would "works" fall into this? or would it fall under utilities? > (power / water / telephone / internet / garbage ) This is also a fuzzy > idea. > > electricity production and distribution > gas ... > > > Landuse=energy (or power?) and can tie into the power=tag for all the > myriad of power things. They have really developed the power tag to cover > many different things. May interfere with power=substation. > > > ... > > until now, most of these simply got their specific tag to say what they > are without any landuse. We will have to decide if this is sufficient or if > and for what we'd like to have additional landuse values. > > > I like the idea of broad landuses in conjunction with specific tags, > either existing amenity tags or subtags for yet to be labeled things. > > I think there is just a few broad landuse tags to add, and several subtag > values to consider. > > out of all these things, =institution, =hospitality, and > =urban_mixed_use seem to be good landuse values. the others need some more > hashing out. > > > What should IMHO not be done is define something with the word > "administration" in it for stuff that isn't administration (courts, > parliaments and counsels, senates, etc.). > > I understand your concerns now. > > Landuse=institution with a subtag for it's types is really flexible. > > > Javbw > > > > Cheers, > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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