On 01.04.2014 03:01, Dave Swarthout wrote: > So, an alpine_hut is, at least in Europe, an operated place sort of like > a guest_house? I don't think we have anything comparable in the U.S.
How about this one: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/419229498 ? > Wikipedia shows several huts of the type I mean here: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilderness_hut .Their definition says these > are free — that is not the case in Alaska but is mostly true elsewhere > in the U.S. AFAIK We have access=* and fee=* to state this information. > Fly mentioned shelter_type just now — another type of wilderness > accommodation is a basic shelter called a lean-to, a rough three sided, > roofed shelter, open to the elements on one side. There is generally a > fire pit in front although these days the custom of having open fires in > designated wilderness areas is greatly discouraged, even illegal, in > many of them. In Europe, even at official fire pits, it always depends on the weather conditions if it might be illegal to have an open fire outdoors. > I think a link to shelter:type would be a good addition to the Map > Features; Tourism page for further choices when tagging wilderness > shelters. https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:shelter_type. Note that > this page throws more confusion into the discussion because on it they > define a basic_hut that is, by my definition at least, the same thing > we're talking about here. What a mess! Well it is never to late for a clean up once we find the proper definitions, descriptions and names. Thought shelter_type=basic_hut offers less infrastructure and is tinier than wilderness_hut but we could also merge them. You even find some wilderness_huts under shelter_type=* already [1]. The value was added without a proposal and was not part of the original proposal. All together, I would drop it in favour of wilderness hut to have only open and always accessible buildings under shelter. > @Jonathan - thanks for the link to bothy. Some of those would fit my > definition of wilderness_hut although not the one in Windsor Castle LOL. > Also, I'm curious, there is certainly no wilderness in the U.K > comparable in size or remoteness to those we have in Alaska but is there > any area known as wilderness there? Even though I have been only as tourist in GB, I know there are some lonely and rough spots there where you will be happy to find a nice shelter if weather changes rapidly or after some kind of problem outdoors. My 2ct fly [1] https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/?key=shelter_type#values _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
