Hi, I've already edited Rational paragraph to give a better description with distinction between buildings where workers can enter.
Secondly, ok for street_cabinet=waste (and maybe street_cabinet=waste_management if cabinets are encountered with devices to manage waste transit or storage) man_made=street_cabinet isn't incompatible with amenity=waste_* and street_cabinet=waste should concern anything regarding waste. I'm not so friendly with proposal editing while voting. Nevertheless, with such extensive keys like street_cabinet=* I think users won't mind if we document additional values. Is everybody ok with it ? *François Lacombe* francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu http://www.infos-reseaux.com 2014-11-01 11:04 GMT+01:00 johnw <jo...@mac.com>: > Well, they re not open to the public - only the designated houses in the > area can use their station, not anyone else. You don’t use other people’s > stations. There is one closer to my house, but I’m not allowed to use it, > because the one pictred is “ours”. it is regualrly maintained, on rotation, > by the users of it. > > These are not public garbage cans, they are a drop-off point between > specific customers and the garbage pickup. > > They are not completely private, like a mail transfer box, but they are > not public either. > > Javbw > > > On Oct 31, 2014, at 7:01 PM, Tom Pfeifer <t.pfei...@computer.org> wrote: > > > > I would distinguish between an amenity=waste_* for structures > > that are open for everybody to bring their waste, with or without fee, > > thus as a POI somebody would navigate to (where can I bring my waste), > > and the cabinet=waste merely describing the street inventory > > (what is that odd locked box for). > > > > johnw wrote on 2014-10-31 07:00: > >> I was going to suggest "Waste Transfer station" > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dwaste_transfer_station > >> But after reading the wiki for it, it was not at all what I expected. > >> > >> In America, at least in most suburban areas, waste is collected from > individual residences via bins/cans on the street with(enormous) trucks, so > there is no static transfer points whatsoever, it goes from curb to > landfill directly. > >> > >> In Japan, There are static waste collection "Garbage stations" [ゴミ > ステーション] per street or area, and are often large, steel, screened cages that > are stuffed full of 45 liter bags. There is no possible way fro a truck to > service the myriad of little tiny buildings, some of them only on walking > paths - even in cities of 100K people, so there is a garbage station for > every 20-30 houses or so, or one for a large apartment or company. > Temporary ones are merely nets to keep the crows off the bags, but most are > permanent ones worth mapping. > >> > >> My local garbage station (2 cabinets) http://goo.gl/maps/VLgMP > >> a full one nearby http://goo.gl/maps/eqVS3 > >> > >> > >> although some are old and look disused, they are used daily or weekly > by the populace, and mapping them would be useful on a very local level > (like the cabinets in general). > >> > >> Please add a line item for waste transfer, similar to the postal > transfer - this is a missing step in the garbage collection, and a cabinet > that have been overlooked. > >> Also, I suggest also adding "sliding" for the door hinge option (as the > second one has no hinges) > >> > >> Javbw > >> > >> On Oct 31, 2014, at 6:08 AM, Tom Pfeifer wrote: > >> > >>> François Lacombe wrote on 2014-10-30 21:42: > >>>> I would suggest street_cabinet=garbage for the equipment you've > mentioned. > >>> > >>> maybe =waste is more consistent with existing tags such as > >>> amenity=waste disposal, amenity=waste basket or > >>> generator:source=waste > >>> > >>> Garbage is less used in tags so far. > >>> > >>>> A cabinet is a feature where workers can't enter. > >>>> A building is the opposite. > >>>> Then, substations and other stuff can be divided between those two > sorts. > >>> > >>> That's a very plausible distinction and should be documented. > >>> > >>> tom > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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