On 5/02/2015 9:02 AM, David Bannon wrote:
On Thu, 2015-02-05 at 08:23 +1100, Warin wrote:
The 'amenity=waste_disposal does not look to have been through an
aproval process ... nor does any tag. The 'approval process' is
voluntary ..
Not sure I agree there ! There is an approval process, if a key/tag
gets the votes OR its agreed thats its widely used, then its "officially
approved".
Complying with the standard so established is voluntary. I guess thats
what you meant.
Yes.. sort of. But not that important.
But thats probably not important, lets concentrate on camp_site.
Err No. This is about 'amenity=waste_disposal ... it came out of the
discussion on campsite.. but amenity=waste_disposal is not limited to
campsites. Need may 'hats' around here.
Are
you suggesting we should throw out whats there now and define some
better terms ? As you point out, existing ones may not be 'official'
and are not really a very good syntax.
I'd not throw out the ones in use. Well most of them .. the possible
confusion between waste=dog and waste=dog_excrement is evident and it
probably comes about by the present non existent documentation.
I'd personally like to make it a bit tidier but like Dave S, I'll go
with the flow, as long as there is a flow !
Yep. I too would like to make it tidier .. but 'we' are being lead by
those not documenting what they are tagging, and possibly those not
talking about 'their' additions.
For example, dump_point or dump_station is vastly preferable IMHO to a
[amenity=waste_disposal; waste=chemical_toilet] combination.
Only one person voted on dump_point .. one. If you want to pursue that
then go ahead .. but I think people want things gathered together under
a primary tag then sub tags for the details. Unfortunately in this case
I too think it is wrong - for the following reason - the rendering of
the feature should depend on the sub tag .. as that tells us what is there.
I think pitch v. campsite v. campground is lost, there are 56K uses of
campsite. If I had time, I see how many are in the UK ! Interestingly,
the tags we are discussing are not mentioned in camp_site
combinations.....
Incidentally, they use "pitch" as in "pitch a tent", I didn't get that.
Personally, I'd only put a new tag on the wiki in a proposal page. If we
agree, here, on things that work, I'd go that way.
I think that is best. And may obtain future tag names being more
appropriate .. past examples ? campsite-campground? trash-rubbish?
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Additional thing .. distinguishing between amenity=waste_disposal and
amenity=waste_basket?
Might be best done on volume of the receptacle ? Say 0.5 m^3 (half a
cubic meter) as the change over point between the two? But make it a
'general guide' .. not a hard rule!
Thus a waste_basket is less then 0.5 m^3, and a waste_disposal is 0.5
m^3 or more .. but includes all liquid waste disposal?
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One thing I have deleted from waste_disposal was a comment that liquid
waste should have a different tag .. but that was inconsistent with the
linked waste= tag...
So do you wast to generate a liquid waste tag ? If so what name should
it have ?
I'm not fixed in either way ,... but would like to have it done sooner
rather than later when other tags will be in use!
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