I really dislike strong black renderings for power lines, if they are rendered 
at all. 

I opened a ticket in which I was told it was my fault for thinking it it was a 
bad idea and to stop complaining or claiming persecution (which was really 
really weird). Others mentioned that the stylesheet may be updated in the 
future. Flexibility of the stylesheet is a must to adapt to local conditions 
and labeling customs,  in the same way the map accommodates languages other 
than English. 

https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/issues/1260


In OSM, so many things man made, especially ways, go from light colors (local 
roads) to brighter colors (Tollways, trunk roads) to how importance. Black 
lines are walls and barriers of some kind - embankments, bridge casings, 
retaining walls, or a mode of transportation, aerialways or the like. 

Then, for some bizarre reason, there are black power lines. You can see the 
towers, but the lines are not a barrier to movement, not a (human) 
transportation method, and look like retaining walls over the road. 

They should not be rendered in -carto at all, or at best a very light grey line 
- anything but a solid black wall/areialway running across/over streets and 
hillsides, train lines, and whatnot when they serve no transportation purpose 
nor offer any barrier. 

it is a direct conflict to the stylesheet. 

Also:

Having the trunk lines rendered is a big negative, though the towers are 
visible landmarks. the local lines are less important than hedges or walls. 
they are background noise. 

There are so many neighboorhood wires here in Japan that every neighborhood 
would like a plate of black spaghetti. The amount of wires, even in rural 
areas, is surprising. In suburban areas, the mess would be catastrophic.

rural https://www.flickr.com/photos/javbw/11091291246/in/set-72157638113676925 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/javbw/11091291246/in/set-72157638113676925>  

suburban 
https://www.flickr.com/photos/javbw/11091343673/in/set-72157638113676925 
<https://www.flickr.com/photos/javbw/11091343673/in/set-72157638113676925> 



and, when combined with other rendering choices, the problem is compounded.


In certain countries (such as the one I am in) the thick black line has a 
single purpose - private train lines. The zebra striped lines -carto uses are 
for national lines only (JR lines in Japan), and the thick black lines are for 
private railways (such as most of the Tokyo subway system) that run across the 
country. Two of the three train lines in my city should be black lines. So 
thick black trunk lines makes it look like there are train lines all over my 
province that don’t exist, which is a real detriment to the OSM/-carto render 
in Japan. adding neighborhood lines would be even worse. 

This system of labeling was adopted in Japan to more easily differentiate the 
lines and systems sometime between 1945 and 1965, as I have official city maps 
for my area from 1921, 1945, 1965, and 2007.  The 1965 map uses the labeling 
all Japanese maps and other websites use now, which is not possible to 
implement currently in -carto. This makes the map the odd-man-out and much more 
difficult to orient yourself on at important city-wide zoom levels, and 
confusing in areas where different train lines meet. 

The inability to properly render train lines in a manner used the by local 
populations *around the world* (not just for me and my little area, as was 
claimed) and using the zebra stripe for all standard train lines is a detriment 
to the map. coupled with the unnecessary prominence of the power lines,  these 
two issues create a very bad combination in some places, though it is 
particularly bad in Japan.  


 Javbw




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