On 17/03/2015 16:16, Malcolm Herring wrote:
On 17/03/2015 13:19, Martin Koppenhoefer wrote:
their tagging scheme is somehow a parallel universe,

Not parallel, but in some cases complimentary. For 95% of objects there
are no overlaps with standard OSM objects. It is those 5% of cases that
do overlap that people notice & hence assume that OpenSeaMap have an
alternative set of tags for everything.

Those 5% are still an issue.
Redundancy in the data, even if not wanted in theory, is part of the life of OSM because of many reasons, that we can resume by saying that the community is diverse. Though, in the case of OpenSeaMap, the fact that *all* keys that overlap are duplicated shows, in my opinion, that there is no intention to *integrate* with the community. I understand that having one coherent namespaced scheme for all the keys interesting OpenSeaMap makes life easier for data processing, but, imho, that's more of parasite than nutrient for OSM data. Plus, remember that, from time to time, we spot some mass edit changes where OpenSeaMap people **replace** OSM community tag with it's own namespaced version. Each data consumer needs to adapt to the database, not the database to each data consumer.

So yeah, 95% of OpenSeaMap objects are specific and not overlaping with standard OSM objects, and this in fact is actually *just* OSM data related to sea and boat navigation, and this is *nice*. But still, after years of debate, there is friction on the other 5%, and that's sad, specifically because this devalues the OpenSeaMap perception in the community, and thus the OpenSeaMap data.

As long as you will try to control the data (and scheme) from a central point, you will loose the power of the community.


Yohan

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