On 25/03/2015 9:23 AM, David Bannon wrote:
On Tue, 2015-03-24 at 09:42 -0700, Bryce Nesbitt wrote:
On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 10:11 PM, David Bannon wrote
Are we better saying -
tourism=camp_site
toilets=yes
sanitary_dump_station=yes
amenity=showers
fee=yes
Yes.
Because camp sites will defy categorization.
No, sorry, I don't think that works either ! Looking at a typical
commercial book that describes camp sites, you expect to see a list,
maybe a long one, things like toilets, water, showers, laundary, BBQ,
fire place and so one. Many of these are already in amenity=*. But its
silly to do on one node or area -
tourism=camp_site
name=Happy Campers Rest
amenity=bbq
amenity=fireplace
amenity=bench
amenity=waste_disposal
So, I'd need to map each as an individual node. A search of the data
will not necessarily associate the BBQ with Happy Campers Rest Caravan
Park. Thats just as silly.
Someone making a map wants to see one object with these attributes so
they can decide what to render and how to render it.
No, not a decision for the render but information for the end user .. the most
important pero=son is the end user!
'Customers' first! :-)
The map user wants to search for the closest camp sites and then select for the
features they want.
On one node/area you would have
tourism=camp_site
name=Happy Campers Rest
fee=yes/no/number
The additional required data would be the level of services/facilities
available. At least that is my view.
I'd think that the services/features would be like the hotel star rating system
- the more stars the better?
The Germans use Tourist (*), Standard (**), Comfort (***), First Class (****)
and Luxury (*****)
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotel_rating
Humm is there a camp site rating system too?
The Americans have some
http://camping.about.com/cs/campgroundreviews/a/ratingsystems.htm
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For OSM camp_sites? These words would get away from 'official', 'designated' ...
and convey some idea? None(*), Basic (**), Comfort (***), First Class (****),
Luxury(*****) ?
Or maybe the 'None' gets no stars?
None( ), Basic (*), Standard (**), Comfort (***), First Class (****),
Luxury(*****) ?
None= nothing other than an area to pitch a tent or park a vehicle.
Basic = None + a toilet
Standard = Basic + water
Comfort = Standard + shower
First Class = Comfort + cloths washing (+ power?)
Luxury =Comfort + camp kitchen/swimming pool/restaurant
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There is a similar proposal for hotels
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Awards_and_ratings
I think it failed due to an expectation that the data needs to be upto date..
and that won't be done on the OSM ..
the truth is that the OSM is upto date .. look how fast changes are made to
roads when they change.
I expect the same for other features, where outdated data is found mappers
update it.
Get off your unrealistic expectations of instantaneous correct data only being
within OSM!
Errors occur, data does get out of date. But it gets 'fixed' fairly quickly.
Denying data entry that indicates what the end users want undermines the
usefullness of OSM.
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