W dniu 16.05.2015 19:42, Richard Welty napisał(a):
on the other hand, demanding that the rendering on
www.openstreetmap.org [1]
be all things to all people is actually pretty unreasonable. the
current
architecture which separates data from style is well considered and
in line
with modern best practices; i haven't yet seen an argument that would
persuade me otherwise.
For only experts, probably yes (like HTML development or the likes). But
we're much closer to Wikipedia, where we don't demand anybody to be
GIS-aware or to participate in making drafts.
We're not community of GIS experts, rather small-scale mappers, just
like Wikipedians. But it's much easier to write new article or even put
the photo there than try to make visible some features one consider
essential.
We don't care for them now and I think we should start to do it. Maybe
some user-cases study would be useful to conduct, like in usability
research - these examples may get you the idea how one can do it to
imagine the possible real life scenarios:
a) "Mary is a 32 australian farmer and wants to have the data about her
big farm..."
b) "Jerzy is a 54 polish librarian fond on taking picture of the nature
and he likes to have a map of birds nests..."
c) "Tove is 21 of Finnish descent living in Sweden and she regularly
sails on the Baltic sea on her parents boat..."
...and so on. Once we start seeing through the eyes of people using the
map, who can help expand and refine our data, we can understand what are
their background, what are the problems for them and how they may behave
when experiencing obstacles. That may give us a hint what could we do to
let them be better mappers and achieve their personal goals at the same
time.
The important thing is we should not just research using tools like iD,
but rather we should look what they try to achieve with OSM as a
project. Maybe conducting real study would be the best, I don't know,
but until we try to understand them, and we will just keep saying "DON'T
map for renderer", they will go away or just do it anyway...
what we could use are more people doing projects like opencyclemap
and
openfiremap and the like to bring out the data they care about in
formats
that they like.
I disagree - they typically won't have enough technical skills and the
OSM is already very scattered. For example adding routing to the main
site was a huge step ahead, because it's the whole toolset is what the
people need, not just a do-it-yourself kit. Google Maps are not the
best, but the fact that it is part of their ecosystem (routing, ads,
mail etc.) makes them very useful and popular.
my presentation at SOTM US will include examples of using leaflet,
jquery
and overpass to create mashups of OHM and OSM data, and i'll be
making
my javascript available on the ohm github repository under a 3 clause
BSD
license for anyone who wants to play.
That is nice, but most our mappers don't know even these words, let
alone have enough competence to use it themselves.
--
"The train is always on time / The trick is to be ready to put your bags
down" [A. Cohen]
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