On 1/06/2015 8:34 AM, John Willis wrote:
+1 to Martin

Really super large fountains (like the one in front of the Bellagiao(?) in LasVegas is giant, and mapping the nozzles is possible - but a nozzle is not an amenity. But the fountain itself is a fountain (and landmark), which places it in amenity.

Perhaps a fountain sub-key

Fountain=*

For the nozzles, lights, water fill, water return, shut-off/control box, and filter set is a good idea (even if most of those are unrendered), for fountain people to map the entire system.

Javbw

Some (if not all) could be used by other things .. swimming pools, spars
Rather than isolate them to fountains .. perhaps man_made=light waterway=return_outlet waterway=filter ?

On May 31, 2015, at 7:31 PM, Martin Koppenhoefer <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:





Am 31.05.2015 um 11:44 schrieb AYTOUN RALPH <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:

I am a bit puzzled by the use of amenity here.

According to wiki it is "Covering an assortment of community facilities..." that are of obvious use to locals and/or tourists such as toilets, banks, schools.



I agree with regard to "nozzle" while for fountains amenity is OK and is very established



I find the use of amenity for things like a bar or biergarten or sauna to be outside this description.


but they are how the current scheme defines it, restaurants etc all are in amenity




I also do not understand the use of amenity for a tourist or ornamental feature such as a fountain?


a fountain is not a "tourist" feature in my eyes, they are much older than tourism in general. they are part of the urban furniture and serve for decoration, accentuation but sometimes also practical purposes like providing drinking water, cooling, etc



Surely it is just a "place-of-interest" and would be under tourism=fountain for those fountains that are of interest to the visitor (and would therefore not be confused with a drinking fountain which would be an amenity=drinking_water) and man_made=fountain for others of less note (as I am unaware of a general place_of_interest tag).


-1, I would not suggest to use different tags based on such a weak criterion like "interest to the visitor" I also hardly can find any particular relation of visitors and fountains, besides that they look at them (just as they visit churches, but we are not tagging tourism=church).

I'd keep amenity=fountain and render just a name (zoomlevel area size dependent ) with no icon, and would use
man_made=nozzle or maybe
waterway=nozzle
for the single nozzle (not rendered in default style or rendered just with a small dot)

cheers
Martin
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