Hi, While I've never tagged any form of diplomatic institution, I agree with the rationale behind your proposal. I do have some suggestions around implementation details.
I would argue that you wouldn't need tags specifying what country the diplomatic institution is physically located in: one can (or at least, should!) be able to perform an is_in-type check for this. The country that the diplomatic institute belongs to is definitely useful, though. Additionally, I got "diplomatic:sending" and "diplomatic:destination" the other way around to you, so I think that you would need clearer naming. Perhaps "diplomatic:country" would be more appropriate? To take your example of a Spanish consulate in France, I would amend it to something along these lines: amenity=diplomatic diplomatic=consulate diplomatic:country=ES name=Spanish Consulate addr:country=FR Hope this helps. (: --K On 25 August 2015 at 14:21, <serpens-...@gmx.de> wrote: > Short introduction: Let’s take the tagging scheme „fuel“ for example: > > amenity=fuel > fuel:diesel=<yes/no> > fuel:discount=<discount programme> > … > > This is logical and consistent: amenity=xy and then a namespace > xy:<subkey>=<Tag> > --- > > Now to my topic: diplomatic institution – like an embassy, a consulate, > ambassador’s residence, honorary consulate, consulate general, delegation, > high commission, permanent mission, (permanent) representation etc. > We have amenity=embassy since long time. Some of these are tagged on top with > the (relatively new) key „diplomatic“ too – a very useful key. > --- > > > > So I have two suggestions: *FIRST* > > Change amenity=embassy to amenity=diplomatic (this is more consistent and > logical, analog to amenity=fuel etc.) or <whatever>=diplomatic. But please > not the too specific „amenity=embassy“ – how could I explain a new mapper to > tag a non-embassy (like a consulate) as „amenity=embassy“. > > for this, see also proposed features: > - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Embassy (and „talk“ > page there) > --- > > > > Besides the tagging of the type of diplomatic institution it is super useful > to tag a machine-readable country code (at least for the sending country). > This is done so far via country=<country code>. This is not the best solution > because there are very often misunderstandings – which country? The sending > country or the destination (hosting) country? Sometimes target=<country code> > is used for the destination (hosting / „targeted“) country. > > My *SECOND* suggestion: > > diplomatic:sending=ES <--- machine-readable ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 > country code > diplomatic:destination=FR <--- -- " -- > > It could be also diplomatic:destination_country or diplomatic:target or > something like this. > > The destination country is not always identical with addr:country – see for > example the embassy of Ethiopia in Berlin (destination countries: Germany, > Poland, Slovak Republic and Czech Republic), see > http://aethiopien-botschaft.de/ > > for this, see also my osm blog (about tagging country codes on embassies > etc.): > - state 2009: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Serpens/diary/5734 and > http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Serpens/diary/9082 > - state 2015: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Serpens/diary/28350 > --- > > > > Because English is not my first language: Dear native speakers, please check > if this is correct (sending country / destination country?). > > Taginfo: > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/amenity=embassy > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/diplomatic > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/country > http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/target > > Best > serpens > --- > > > tl;dr (sorry for the long post!): > > Example (Spanish consulate in France – CURRENT STATE): > > amenity=embassy <--- „oh, look, it’s an embassy!“ > diplomatic=consulate <--- contradiction: „uhm, wait, no. it’s a > consulate.“ > country=ES <--- often misunderstood as „addr:country“ > > name=Spanish consulate > addr:country=FR > … > > > Example (Spanish consulate in France – MY PROPOSAL): > > amenity=diplomatic <--- it’s a diplomatic institution > diplomatic:type=consulate <--- more specififc: it’s a consulate > diplomatic:sending=ES <--- machine-readable ISO 3166-1 alpha-2 country > code > diplomatic:destination=FR <--- -- " -- > > name=Spanish consulate > addr:country=FR > … > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
