On 10/01/2016 10:56 AM, Daniel Koć wrote:
W dniu 10.01.2016 0:20, Tom Pfeifer napisał(a):
Both 'amenity=public_building' and 'building=public' are problematic,
Sure.
+1
If you search on the wiki for 'public building' you get
amenity=public_building ... I think it should suggest building=public as
the first preference.
but for different reasons. Merging their wiki representations mixes the
arguments against both, and makes improvements even more difficult.
'amenity=public_building' is an unspecific use of the amenity key, and
should be replaced with a more specific value.
Probably more than one value!
'building=public' describes some form of accessibility using a key
that should describe the architectural type of a building.
In some parts of the world .. 'public buildings' do have an
'architectural style'.
Just for the record: "accessibility" brings some unwanted connection
with "access" key, which we're not discussing now, as far as I
understand.
+1 But I think I know what Tom is getting at, Public as in open to the
public.
You could be right, but IIRC when discussing church example I was once
told that it's not that building=church+amenity=museum is about
describing form (building) and function (amenity), as I thought. And
indeed, we have some pretty popular tags like building=retail (~200k
uses), which is mixing these two factors.
The requirements of the building occupiers do result in set
relationships between form (how it looks) and function (what it gets
used for).
However that are exceptions - a corner store can be used as a residence,
resulting in building=retail, landuse=residential. Despite the
occasional 'customer' entering the bedroom for a loaf of bread.
But if we really want to separate form and function, it would be
better to not have something "amenity=public_building" (rather
"amenity=yes" in general, when in doubt), while "building=public"
sounds more reasonable for me (general category for building types
other than for private people to live in).
building=public allows for those buildings that have some architectural
style that says 'public building'.
amenity=public_building conveys ???? Here is a building .. that is
public .. but the function (amenity) is unknown? So why not use the
clearer building=public? 'We' may prefer more specific tagging .. but in
some places that may not be possible. And those that want to tag more
information will then be looking elsewhere as to what they want to tag
... amenity=toilets for instance. Or amenity=shelter.
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