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sent from a phone > On 1. May 2017, at 12:37, Andy Mabbett <[email protected]> wrote: > > Do not falsely conflate "complex" with "worse". You original complaint > was, in effect, that there was a lack of complexity, now you complain > that there is. no, my main concern is that both have different scope, and that people are modifying wikidata without looking at the use of osm tags. > >> You have to follow a lot of links and definitions and there >> are many dependencies, everything is connected: > > It's called "linked data" for a reason. yes, but it makes it completely impractical for osm users to use it as definitions for their tags. We should have something concise, not too long, and not self contradicting. Not a web of self contradicting possibilities with endless texts in different languages which aren't consistent between them. > >> if the meaning of a property is modified this will actually modify >> a huge lot of objects that use this property. > > Do you have examples of the meanings of properties being modified, > such that things were broken in this way? Or is this mere FUD? > >> E.g. place in osm is orthogonal to administrative entities, in wikidata >> it is not. Add a property/"instance of" to the wikidata town object like >> "administrative territorial entity" and you changed all towns. > > If someone made such a ridiculous change, they would be reverted. This is FUD. rather than calling my arguments FUD, you should have a look at wikidata. I don't write out of nothing about these issues, or because I hate structured information. I was very interested in wikidata at first, but the more I'm exploring it and following links after links, the more I have become reluctant that it is in any usable state or even ever will be - besides synchronizing some numbers between different languages and similar. The entity "town" ALREADY IS an administrative territorial entity in wikidata, and nobody has reverted it: https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Q3957 At least since 2014, and a lot of people have "automatically patrolled" it since then, whatever that means, (likely it has nothing to do with a human verification of content plausibility) Cheers, Martin
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