Hi all,

I'm in favor of a namespace solution,
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Namespace
e.g.

ski:clothes=yes
surfing:clothes=yes
motorcycle:clothes=yes
any_other_sport:clothes=yes

and so on.

This way you may also tag other shops (not just shop=clothes)
in a way which exactly describes their offers,
in this example possibly a shop=sports.

The same works also for other services they offer,
like
ski:repair=yes
ski:rental=yes
ski:parts=yes

This way there's no need to create a new shop type
or decide whether it's MORE one type of shop (bicycle vs. motorcycle vs.
car or similar)
in case they offer very various things.

Cheers,
Thilo


Am 26.08.2017 um 13:13 schrieb Martin Koppenhoefer:
>
>
> sent from a phone
>
> On 26. Aug 2017, at 11:15, Simon Poole <si...@poole.ch
> <mailto:si...@poole.ch>> wrote:
>
>> the question turned up if shop=fashion (with 5000 something uses)
>> should not be deprecated (==not offered for new use) due to overlap with
>> shop=boutique (~11'000 uses) and shop=clothes, clothes=fashion (not
>> particularly popular with roughly 200 uses). It just doesn't seem to
>> have a good definition, which is already pointed out on the wiki page
>> (but without a conclusion).
>
>
> I'd see shop=fashion similar with shop=boutique, while shop=clothes is
> not particularly helpful if you're looking to buy clothes (too
> generic). I'd roughly see it like this: boutique expensive, fashion
> cheap(er), department store both, supermarket cheap ;-)
>
> What would I search for if I wanted to buy a suit or a shirt
> (department shops apart which will sell you anything)? Maybe a
> "boutique for men"? To buy gloves I'd try with a  shop=bags? Or
> shop=leather? Or shop=sports? Or an outdoor shop? There are many
> places to buy clothes, cheap, casual, formal, according to the
> material, for work, gender, age, style, one brand/designer or
> multiple, or no (known) designer, discounter, different types of
> clothing (underwear, shirts, etc.
> I'm rather against reduction of top level shop types, there's IMHO a
> clear distinction between fashion shops and boutiques, with maybe some
> edge cases, but still useful overall. Nonetheless I agree that
> shop=clothes does require subtags to be more useful, but the current
> situation in the clothes key is not working:
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/clothes#values
> There are many orthogonal, specific properties tagged, e.g. target
> group (women, men, children, babies), for specific occasions/uses
> (sports/wedding/workwear), materials (denim/fur), type
> (underwear/lingerie). Fashion would be yet another new category in
> this cauldron (with 111 uses it isn't really significant).
>
> cheers,
> Martin 
>
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