Interesting. I've often wondered what the distinction is supposed to be between shop and amenity.
To me, a shop is an establishment open to the public that sells goods. In other words, I enter, I pay money, I leave with something. An amenity is an establishment open to the public that offers services. So a restaurant, for instance, is an amenity, because I'm not going there to buy food (to take home to prepare, that would be a grocery), but rather I am paying for the service of food preparation (on site). I'm not leaving with anything (other than a sense of satisfaction.) So, your definition of shop as a business offering goods or services for sale is interesting to me, and I wonder how it comports with actual OSM usage. In any case, the distinction seems rather arbitrary in practice. For instance, there was a debate about whether shop=vacant makes any sense. I think it does, but "shop" would then need to include any storefront -- that is, the physical (mappable) attribute is more important than the (transient) service or goods being offered. Of course there are also legacy tags. I never understood, for instance, why a pharmacy is an amenity and a chemist is a shop. I'd think both are shops. (I enter a pharmacy, hand over my prescription and money, and leave with my medication. A shop.) Similarly (and I see this was discussed at one point) an estate agent is, well, an agent, for either a buyer or a seller of real estate, and therefore isn't a shop at all. If I enter, I might be interested in buying, I might be interested in selling, but in any case I am purchasing a service -- that of the agent -- and not buying (or selling) a home. As for "printer" being either a machine or a person, I agree, but the tag is longstanding. There are roughly 100 amenity=printer, 100 craft=printer, 50 craft=printing. And 650 shop=printing. That last seems to be the winner. And one shop=printing_services :) If you search (as I did when first encountering this) for "printer" on the OSM wiki, the first result is amenity=printer. Other variants are not on the first page (of 20 results), if they are there at all. I first ran across it while trying to discover how to tag what is called a "taxiphone" in France. I ran into the copy_shop proposal, where Harry Wood described them as "crappy little shops". https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Copy_Shop I'm happy to modify the wiki to recommend shop=printing if that seems useful. On Tue, Feb 27, 2018 at 9:42 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer <dieterdre...@gmail.com > wrote: > > > sent from a phone > > > On 24. Feb 2018, at 14:27, Johnparis <ok...@johnfreed.com> wrote: > > > > To Thilo's questions: > > > > 1) amenity=printer is for an establishment that offers printing > services. It is not a shop that sells printers. > > > IMHO this is not a good tag, because “printer” can mean a machine or a > person, and amenity doesn’t provide context. > > For the person/profession, “craft=printer” seems better, for the service > I’d use shop=printing_service or sth. similar and less ambiguous. Shop > should be used for businesses offering products or services. > > Cheers, > Martin > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > Tagging@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >
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