Hi, It may be good to think globally and develop the waterworks=* key instead of using man_made https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/waterworks#overview
This would efficently group pumping_station, sewerage_process, drinking_process, covered_reservoir and so on... Waterworks connect to natural and artifical waterways including pressurised and pipelines. Processed or produced type of water may go in substance=* key (drinking_water, raw_water, sewerage...) Let's follow the experience of power plants by distinguishing buildings from devices. Pumping station refer to the building while a pump refers to the device (node inside the building) If the building is too small to let technicians enter in it, it's a street cabinet (man_made=streer_cabinet) This require formal proposal for waterworks facilities, some of them are already listed in this draft about water networks https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/water_network All the best François 2018-04-26 19:16 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen <[email protected]>: > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 5:14 PM, marc marc <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> >> > pumping_station=sewage >> >> is pumping_station only a duplicate key for substance ? >> it look like useless >> > > I suspect pumping_station=sewage was the original way of tagging it but > then > the pipeline people decided substance=sewage was better. Taginfo has 883 > uses of pumping_station and only 165 pumping_station=sewage. Taginfo has > 1097 uses of substance=sewage, but a lot of those could be pipelines and > manholes, to which it also applies. It can probably be deleted but I'll > wait > until I'm happy about all the other changes before I do it,to give somebody > who lived through those changes a chance to say why it should remain. > >> >> > 1) Tag actual buildings housing pump machinery as building=service >> > as well as man_made=pumping_station etc. This approach can be >> > found here http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/439149633 >> >> if the pump is inside the building, it's of course a good idea to map >> the building. >> > > Indeed. But only required if the building is all there is to the pumping > station, to give an object to apply man_made=pumping_station to. If > it's just one building amongst a collection of stuff, it's nice to add it > with > building=service but could be omitted if the aerial imagery isn't clear. > > >> PS : the name look like fake. >> > > It could be real. Not a problem if it's not. > >> >> > 2) Tag an area, which may be a single building, or a fence around one >> > or more buildings (and possibly other stuff) as landuse=industrial. >> This >> > approach can be found here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/488574374 >> >> a pump for a residential area in a street cabinet or in a small building >> is imho not an industrial landuse. >> > > Yeah, I'm not happy tagging a cabinet that way. Single building I'm not so > sure of. If it's not industrial landuse in an urban environment is it > industrial > in a rural one? > > Which is why building=service is probably better in that case. Anybody > know what the appropriate tag is for a cabinet (Australians, please don't > say "kiosk"). > > > 7) Other. >> >> I'm not sure that we need to document "map the building if it as a >> building" but why not. >> > > Because it's not obvious. It's natural to assume that a wiki page which > tells you how to tag something tells you everything you need to know. > Otherwise people end up making up their own solutions, or keep asking > in the forum, or get frustrated because it doesn't work, or they end up > researching it as best they can then proposing a documentation change > on this mailing list. > > >> I think we should advise each method when it is the most appropriate:-) >> a cabinet or a building without a landuse if it's only a cabinet or >> building >> an area with a landuse if it's an area = more than only a building (2 or >> more building and/or space around the building also "used" for the >> station) >> > > I'd say what makes it landuse is more than one object and there's a fence > around those objects. In borderline cases even a single building with a > fence can probably be mapped as landuse because there may be > underground objects within the fence that the mapper is unaware of. > > I wonder when we're going to decide what to call large street cabinets. :) > > -- > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >
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