I have ordered a few bus, train, cycling and walking routes.

In principle:

Both bus and train routes need to be ordered in version 2 of public transport 
(both stop positions and ways need to be ordered from start to finish).

Cycling and walking routes should be ordered for correct interpretation by data 
users.






On 04/05/18 04:13, James wrote:
bus route relations can get very complexe if they are not ordered. I order them to make sure I haven't missed anything

On Thu, May 3, 2018, 11:28 AM Yves, <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Un-ordered route members make it very hard to detect a broken route.
    Best practice :
    1. If you edit a route, order it at best and check if you haven't
    broken it.
    2. If you find an unordered route, order it, check if broken and
    try to repair it.

    Use for instance http://ra.osmsurround.org/.
    Yves

    Le 3 mai 2018 17:05:32 GMT+02:00, Michael Andersen <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :

        I regularly edit a number of cycle routes (primarily the danish national
        cycleroutes) and do my best to sort/order the members (it's helpfull 
when
        looking for gaps and other peculiarities in JOSM), but have found that 
it's
        often near impossible to make them perfectly sorted.

        Consider for examplehttps://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/20828.  
Where's the
        end points here?

        Also note that inexperienced mappers doing minor edits somewhere along 
a route
        cannot be expected to reorder it.

        On torsdag den 3. maj 2018 07.38.04 CEST Tod Fitch wrote:

            While I’ve mapped a number of trails most of them are not
            part of a designated larger route so I am not 100% sure,
            but I think hiking routes are much like highway routes:
            The ways in the relation should be ordered. Not sure why
            you’d need a node in there, especially without an explicit
            role. If the route ways are ordered it is obvious where
            the end points are. Cheers!

                On May 3, 2018, at 5:06 AM, David Marchal
                <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
                Hello, there. I recently worked a bit on hiking
                routes, and noticed that some routes have unordered
                members. That's particularly noticeable on
                waymarkedtrails.org <http://waymarkedtrails.org>
                <http://waymarkedtrails.org/>, as it makes the
                elevation graph rubbish and useless. I read the
                relation:route wiki page, but there is only advice
                regarding stops order, and not way members order.
                Shouldn't there be a note on this page regarding the
                importance of sorting the ways to have a more useful
                relation than only spaghettis? By the way, I saw some
                hiking relations having a node without explicit role,
                seemingly as a start point; is it a generally
                accepted, used feature, or only an idiosyncrasy?
                Awaiting your answers, Regards.
                
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