> So, in this > case, the route wasn't designed for the benefit of a hot-shot on the council or for a single person with COPD > (as others have suggested) but for the benefit of a large number of people.
Sorry about that, I shouldn't have attempted humor. 2018-05-29 13:16 GMT+02:00 Paul Allen <[email protected]>: > On Tue, May 29, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Jo <[email protected]> wrote: > > The odd thing about this route is that it serves 1 stop at the start of >> this cul-de-sac then continues and turns around. There is no other stop at >> the end, where it makes the maneuver. >> > > A few things. > > 1) Once the bus gets to that stop it is then dead-ended. It has to > perform this manoeuvre somewhere on the > housing estate where that stop is. The only way to avoid a reverse-turn > would be to remove that stop from the > route, thereby removing that housing estate from the route. > > 2) Although there are no other marked stops on that housing estate, it's > effectively (and possibly officially) a > hail-and-ride route by that point. I have seen passengers alight between > the marked stop and the turning > point. Those passengers had mobility issues but I'm pretty sure > passengers without mobility issues would > have been allowed to alight in those places. > > 3) The whole housing estate is dominated by the retired. The marked stop > is by a medium-size housing complex > with a warden. Other, semi-detached, houses on the housing estate tend to > have retirees in them. So, in this > case, the route wasn't designed for the benefit of a hot-shot on the > council or for a single person with COPD > (as others have suggested) but for the benefit of a large number of people. > > But if we're going to a add a role for hail_and_ride and editors need to >> be adapted to accomodate this, we could include this role as well, while >> we're at it. >> > > In iD it's possible to add tags the editor doesn't (yet) know about. I > don't know about any of the other editors. > > The question is does this tag serve a useful purpose? For routers, it > appears not. For data consumers looking > at a map then perhaps. Without it the route would just appear to > dead-end. Does it go out of service there to > turn around and passengers must therefore alight? Is the route > incomplete? For mappers it explains what's > happening so they don't try to "fix" something that isn't broken (mappers > should read notes but don't always > do so). > > As somebody pointed out, routers would be just as happy without the > reverse role and consumers would see > no difference (as long as the reversing stub is included in the route, > with or without a role). It's just a little > less clear to mappers what is going on without that role. > > -- > Paul > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > -- Vr gr Peter Elderson
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