On 14/08/18 02:09, Kevin Kenny wrote:
On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 11:07 AM Martin Koppenhoefer
<[email protected]> wrote:
On 13. Aug 2018, at 14:35, Paul Allen <[email protected]> wrote:

All I was attempting here was to point out that access=no is different from
access=private and can have valid uses.   It's not crazy to have both.  It may 
be rare to have access=no, but any time
you see a sign "No vehicles beyond this point" it applies.
actually that is vehicle=no

Still I agree with the rest of what you wrote, there is a distinction of 
private and no, at least conceptually (not so sure about actual tagging), and 
no would expectly be much fewer than anything else.
OK, mostly makes sense. 'no' = 'impassable', 'you can't
drive/cycle/ride here because of hazards.'
'private' = 'forbidden', 'you can't drive/cycle/ride here because the
landowner/government doesn't allow it.'

'access=no' standing alone (not 'transport_mode=no', not 'access=no
transport_mode=something') is still pretty nonsensical - what is the
point of mapping a way that's impassable to everything? When is a way
not a way? It does indeed make sense when some transport mode has an
answer other than 'no'.

With access=no and no other modes allowed it still is worth mapping.
It makes sense to map what is 'on the ground'.

The way is still there, you can see it and go past it.
It is visible and can be used as a navigation point as you pass it.

Possibly the way may be open in the future.
In an emergency it may be useful.
It is still there, so it goes in the data base.

If you were to pass a way that is not on the map ..
would you would not add it?






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