From: Kevin Kenny <[email protected]>
To: David Swarthout <[email protected]>, "Tag discussion,
strategy and related tools" <[email protected]>, bkil
<[email protected]>, Mateusz Konieczny <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [Tagging] Another multipolygon question
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 7:34 AM bkil <[email protected]> wrote:
It seems many would find a short video tutorial depicting these steps very
handy. Would you mind sharing on Bitchute or on some other video hosting
site?
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 9:00 AM Dave Swarthout <[email protected]>
wrote:
I was wishing that someone would write a short tutorial about relations,
the various concepts about tagging them, and problem solving when something
goes wrong with one. I have been unable to understand with any degree of
certainty how and why we create them, which is the reason I started this
thread and contributed to the other one about tagging groups of lakes. The
Wiki is helpful but leaves out a lot of details. A tutorial, video or
otherwise, would be extremely helpful.
On Sun, Oct 21, 2018 at 1:24 PM Mateusz Konieczny <[email protected]>
wrote:
Maybe improving wiki would be a good idea as the first [step].
I find that video tutorials don't often fit my learning style, so I don't
often use them and have never made one. Moreover, I'm an old man and
somewhat set in my ways. Nevertheless, they seem to be demanded, and if
nobody else steps forward, perhaps it will be possible to teach this old
dog that new trick. I'd be willing to take a whack at a written tutorial,
but can't promise any particular time frame. Just at the moment, I'm
chronically busy.
[...]
If I were to take on this task (again, no guarantees about the time
frame), I could certainly address this issue with JOSM (and possibly
Meerkartor). I surely do not know Potlatch2, iD, or any other tool well
enough to manage anything but the simplest of relations in it, nor do I see
obvious things in the UI that would do what I need. It may well be
limitations of the tools, rather than limitations of knowledge and
training, that make people assert that relations are unmaintainable or that
drawing complex boundaries twice is easier than creating multipolygons with
shared ways. That last statement, however, may be nothing but a base libel
based on ignorance. In that case, I'm more than willing to be enlighened.
It would occasionally be handy to be able to make a quick change to a
multipolygon when I'm away from a machine that has my preferred tools and
simply working in a browser.
I would welcome a good reference on creating and editing relations. I
understand the theory, but I've always wished for some good explanations
of manipulating them in JOSM.
Mark
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