Here, I just looked up "bank" on 411.com (online directory assistance) for Kansas City, Missouri:
https://www.411.com/business/MO/Kansas-city/bank and guess what, Federal Reserve Bank of Kansas City, the Kansas City branch of America's central bank, is listed... https://www.411.com/business/MO/Kansas%20City/federal-reserve-bank-of-kc/b-13fzpij Try it for Washington, D.C., https://www.411.com/business?key=Bank&utf8=%E2%9C%93&where=Washington%2C+DC and see how many non-retail banks you get under the directory assistance rubric of "bank" :-) apm-wa On 11/24/2018 3:08 PM, Warin wrote: > Most people are non-experts in most things. The map should be made for > most people, so that most people can use it. > > And most people would expect something mapped as a bank to be > available for their use. > Much like a cafe or a pub. They would not expect it to be only for > certain groups of institutions. > > The intent with amenity=bank is a financial institution offering > services to the public. > Read https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank > > That OSMwiki page suggest using office=financial for other 'banks' > that do not accept the public. > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:office%3Dfinancial > Perhaps this OSMwiki office=financial definition could be expanded to > accept 'central banks'. > > > > On 24/11/18 18:24, Allan Mustard wrote: >> Sounds to me like the OSM wiki article in question was written by a >> non-expert in banking and finance and should be corrected/expanded. >> Cheers, apm-wa >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> On Nov 24, 2018, at 12:08 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, Nov 24, 2018 at 12:45 AM Allan Mustard <[email protected] >>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >>> >>> Well, a central bank is a bank, after all, whether it is owned >>> by the government or is a "private" parastatal organization.В I >>> would tag it as amenity=bank since it is a bank.В Not all banks >>> offer consumer services, so the fact that an individual cannot >>> open an account in a central bank doesn't disqualify it.В >>> Individuals cannot open accounts in the Bank for International >>> Settlements, either, but it is a bank.В A central bank is a >>> specialized bank that serves the government (controls the >>> monetary system) and the commercial banking sector.В That's why >>> it is called a "central" bank. >>> >>> >В It also wouldn't be tagged as a bank, because it doesn't >>> have accounts & you can't go in & deposit / withdraw cash, or >>> take out a loan. >>> >>> Maybe you and I cannot, but the commercial banks in that country >>> can.В It's a bank. >>> >>> >>> While central banks are certainly banks in and of themselves, I >>> think tagging central banks as plain amenity=bank *without other >>> qualifying tags* is a tricky one, and might constitute as expanding >>> the definition of what amenity=bank is on the OSM wiki. The OSM wiki >>> states that an amenity=bank feature is aВ "financial establishment >>> where customers can, among other services, deposit and withdraw >>> money, take loans, make investments and transfer funds". I would >>> think that the word "customer" in OSM is intended to refer to people >>> and regular businesses, and this is why such establishments are >>> under the amenity=* key. Unlike regular banks, central banks usually >>> only have other banks and their government as their sole customers >>> and in many countries, central banks act as a regulatory agency for >>> banks and other financial institutions, set country-wide fiscal >>> policies like interest rates, and print/mint their countries' >>> currencies. It therefore makes sense to tag central banks somewhat >>> differently from other banks. >>> >>> I would also like to note that in my country, we do have a central >>> bank, but we also have two 100%-government owned commercial banks, >>> established by law, that I would not hesitate to tag as amenity=bank >>> because they offer financial services to the public at large. >>> >>> As for the current proposal, in my country, we currently tag central >>> bank land as landuse=commercial. It might make sense to switch this >>> to landuse=governmental (or some other keyword as may be decided by >>> OSM) if this proposal pushes through. >>> >>> ~Eugene >>> >>> В >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Tagging mailing list >>> [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
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