On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 10:06 AM Johnparis <ok...@johnfreed.com> wrote:\

> The question of "physical control" is, I believe, not at issue. The fact that 
> Russia exercises physical control is precisely what Ukraine objects to. So 
> both sides agree that Russia has physical control of Ukraine. But if there 
> were a dispute, again from the proposal: Disputes about which claiming 
> entity, if any, exercises control over a particular territory can be resolved 
> by the OSM Institutions (meaning the OSMF or the DWG). The criterion of "most 
> widely internationally recognised", and how it might conflict with the 
> criterion of "best meets realities on the ground", is at issue. So the de 
> facto situation remains one that the OSM Institutions would have to resolve. 
> When resolved, the de facto border would get the 
> "boundary:status=osm_designated" tag, which essentially makes it "not subject 
> to change" (by ordinary mappers, anyway).

From https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Kilkenni/diary/47017#comment43421
I understand that the notion using  "physical control" to define the
border is the problem.

m.

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