I agree. I never meant to exclude any significant path to a trail, even if it’s ‘ just’ a path, it can of course be significant because it’s the only access point in miles, even if it has no official name, and that’s precisely why I keep saying it’s up to the mappers.
Mvg Peter Elderson > Op 14 jan. 2019 om 23:04 heeft Kevin Kenny <[email protected]> het > volgende geschreven: > >> On Fri, Jan 11, 2019 at 12:16 PM Andy Townsend <[email protected]> wrote: >> No - it really isn't. That was my entire point. I'm willing to bet a >> small round of beer in the pub up the road that almost no-one walking >> past that info board will say "oh look - that's a trailhead for the TPT". > > On the other hand, I'll bet you a beer in Lake Placid that at least > half the people in the bar at the Adirondack Hotel in Long Lake > village would recognize that this sign > https://www.flickr.com/photos/ke9tv/14920080943/ - which simply stands > on the roadside at a path going into the woods, with no other > facilities right there - marks a trailhead for the Northville-Placid > Trail. (When I say 'no other facilities right there,' what I mean is > that there's a town about 4-5 km down the highway, and it's an easy > walk on the shoulder(verge) or an equally easy hitch.) > > It's an important trailhead. Shattuck Clearing on the sign is the site > of a FORMER ranger station that burnt in the 1960's. Since its road > hasn't been maintained since then, it's grown to trees and entirely > impassable to anything on wheels, so while it serves as a landmark, > it's not an opportunity to get help or leave the trail. If you hike in > at that trailhead, except for a handful of spots on a lake where it > would be possible to land a canoe or water-taxi a float plane, there's > no other way out closer than Lake Placid. It's 58.6 km to the next > highway, about 63 km if you're walking to the town - or to turn around > back the way you came. "The last chance to leave the trail for the > next two or three days" is kind of important to map! > > I'm therefore going to stick with 'designated or customary place to > begin or end a trip on a trail.' > > As long as Peter is agreed that not all trailheads are anything > resembling TOP's and not all TOP's are trailheads, I think we're in > rough agreement. Where I get a bit prickly is at sweeping assertions > like "a trailhead must be something more than where a path crosses a > road." When you're on a trail where it's 60 km between roads (the NPT > crosses four paved roads in 222 km), you're damned right that anywhere > that the trail crosses a road is a trailhead! > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
