On 7/5/2019 10:56 AM, Joseph Eisenberg wrote:
I don't think it would be necessary to combine "bbq=no" and "bring_own_bbq=yes" - if a feature such as a leisure=picnic_site is tagged "bring_own_bbq=yes" that is sufficient. The tag "bbq=no", like most tags with value "no", can be omitted.
This is true. A better phrasing of the problem would be bbq=yes combined with bring_own_bbq=yes. Does bbq=yes imply static bbq equipment, or just permission to bbq that's further refined by the bring_own_bbq=yes tag? In my mind, the *only* reason bbq=yes would mean the presence of a grill is by echoing the amenity=atm/atm=yes pattern. But I don't think that pattern works particularly well in this case. And as you pointed out in your translation of the German wiki page, even amenity=bbq is already used both ways, for equipment and permission: "One distinguishes between free barbecue areas, where you have to take care of the grill yourself and fixed barbecue areas with existing grill..." -- but there's no indicating of *how* one distinguishes between the two. Obviously at one point we didn't care to tag the difference, but now that we do, I don't see any clear way of tagging all three possibilities (grill/byo-grill/both) using the current tags. Jason _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging