>Unladen weight is used in European countries to apply only to goods >vehicles, either 3.5t or 7.5t, and is tagged as hgv=no/destination.
Are you absolutely sure about this? I am pretty sure myself that hgv are defined differently: as goods vehicles with a "gross vehicle weight rating" (gvwr), a.k.a. "gross vehicle mass" (gvm) or plainly said maximum laden weight above 3.5t ... and also documented it this way on the Key:hgv page Tobias On July 6, 2019 1:38:34 PM GMT+02:00, Philip Barnes <[email protected]> wrote: > > >On Saturday, 6 July 2019, Warin wrote: >> On 06/07/19 19:46, Colin Smale wrote: >> > >> > On 2019-07-06 10:48, Warin wrote: >> > >> >> On 06/07/19 18:16, Colin Smale wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On 2019-07-06 05:03, Warin wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On 05/07/19 19:33, Mateusz Konieczny wrote: >> >>> >> >>> 3 Jul 2019, 12:52 by [email protected]: >> >>> >> >>> 1.1 At the examples: for max empty weight, I propose >the >> >>> key maxemptyweight. It suggests itself. >> >>> >> >>> Added, with link back to this post >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Here that would be called "maximum Tare weight". In the UK? >> >>> >> >>> Probably "maximum unladen weight." "Tare" does exist as a word, >and >> >>> is frequently used in logistics (empty weight of containers etc) >but >> >>> AFAIK not in the context of traffic regulations. >> >>> >> >> >> >> Possibly not where you are.. but >> >> >> >> "registrable light motor vehicle means a motor vehicle that is >> >> registrable and has a tare mass that is not greater than 2,794 >> >> kilograms." >> >> >> >> From >https://www.legislation.nsw.gov.au/#/view/regulation/2017/451/full >> >> >> >> And also in other traffic legislation in Australia... >> >> >> >> In the UK? >> >> >> >> "(h)the manner in which the tare weight of road vehicles, or of >road >> >> vehicles of any particular class or description is to be >determined. " >> >> from https://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/1985/72 >> >> >> >> >> > That is not a traffic regulation, that's about metrology. And by >the >> > way, I am speaking as a Brit, so native speaker and somewhat >> > conversant with the laws and legal system. As I said, the word >"tare" >> > does exist, and is used in certain specific contexts. But in >> > connection with road vehicles, everybody in the UK speaks of >Unladen >> > Weight. >> > >> > https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-weights-explained >> > >> >> Ok. >> Here trucks have small signs on there side, they state the tare >weight >> and gvw. I think these are used to confirm the vehicle is not >overloaded >> when inspected (we have both mobile and stationary testing). >> Also tare is used to specify the maximum tare weight of a trailer >that >> inexperienced drivers can use, and that is a road regulation. It may >> also be used for other things. >> A fairly common term here. >> >> ------------- >> Further nit picking.. >> The "Unladen weight" is usually done without fuel but in all other >ways >> ready for the road -i.e. includes spare tyre/s, tools, battery, >coolant, >> oil etc etc. ??? >> I think some manufactures sales brochures quote figures without some >of >> these to make it appear that they have greater load carrying >capabilities. >> Again this may vary from place to place around the world. >> >> -------------------- >> I would be happy with "unladen weight" rather than "empty weight". >> As for "maximum" .. I would use "limit" similar to the use of "speed >> limit". So it would become "unladen weight limit". >> >> I don't think I have ever seen a sign limiting the unladen weight .. >it >> is always a limit on the total weight that the structure is rated >for. >> So I don't think there is much point in discussing it? At least not >from >> my limited knowledge. >> >Unladen weight is used in European countries to apply only to goods >vehicles, either 3.5t or 7.5t, and is tagged as hgv=no/destination. > >It has nothing to do with structures, it is to prevent heavy goods >vehicles taking short cuts through residential areas. > >It only apples to goods vehicles, as you need buses to have access. > >Phil (trigpoint) _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
