Hi, I've found similar issues in France recently. Cycling routes is too broad and diverse and covers various realities. From a rendering perspective (disclaimer: I'm one of the maintainer of the new CyclOSM rendering style, https://cyclosm.org), it is very often a nightmare to try to figure out which one are worth rendering and which ones are just "tag to render".
I'd say we either need subtags to precise and categorize the cycle routes or some clear definition in the wiki. Here are a few examples of what I mean by "too diverse": * Some are racing routes, which have been added to OSM as a cycle route but are by no means usable (no indication on the terrain, huge highways) outside of the race. See http://gis.19327.n8.nabble.com/Epreuve-Cyclo-randonnee-Paris-Brest-Paris-dans-OSM-td5924677.html for instance (in French), now removed. * Some are real roads with an official entity maintaining them (signs, tourist maps, official documentation), with varying quality of infrastructure but always a legal status. See for instance https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/2246847 (very bad infrastructure, but official signs in the streets) or https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6445738 (tourist road, official organism in charge of maintaining it, dedicated and very good infrastructure). * Some are dedicated to a very particular category of cyclists, often racing bikes. We have `route=mtb` for mountain bikes, we might have `route=racing_bikes` for racing bikes? Typical example is https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/163266 (which might actually fall into the tag to render category) * Some have no official existence, but a practical one. Take https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/8664028 for instance, this is just a (long) cycleway in Paris. There are no special signs, nothing special, but everyone refers to it by this acronym, "REV", and it is widely known. These are actually very hard to discriminate with the "tag to render" and might easily fall back in this category. So, in short, I think a clearer definition of what should be a cycle route (with regards to an official entity, a widely used name or anything else) and some tags for subcategorizing it further for special uses (not made for any cyclist) could probaby help a lot! Best, -- Phyks Le 11/10/2019 à 13:52, Mateusz Konieczny a écrit : > > > 11 Oct 2019, 12:18 by [email protected]: >> >> Is there something Im not understanding? Can anyone make a route relation >> for any Way regardless if it is actually a designated oute by a city, >> signed, or publically documented? >> > Such tagging for rendering happens > but is incorrect and should be deleted. > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
