On Sun, 10 Nov 2019 at 23:51, Martin Koppenhoefer <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > On 10. Nov 2019, at 21:57, Paul Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I also see a clear parallel between amenity=bar and amenity=ice_cream: > go in, sit down > > and consume (there may be an option to purchase to take out). > > I would not see sitting as a requirement for any of these two. It is for a > cafe, but for a bar? > In the UK we have pubs/bars. They are places where you sit, buy drinks, and consume them. We also have off-licences, where you buy alcoholic drinks and take them off the premises to consume them. I see parallels to ice cream sales. A place with tables and seats serving only (or mainly) ice cream is amenity=ice_cream in the same way a pub is amenity=pub. A place selling only (or mainly) ice cream to be consumed off the premises is shop=ice_cream in the same way that an off-licence is shop=alcohol. Pubs are usually licenced for off sales (take out) too and many ice cream parlours will do takeaways of some sort: we have a key for that. Yes, the analogy is not exact. You can't legally drink in an off-licence because it is licensed only for consumption off the premises, and these days you can't drink in many public places, but the parallels are still there. Most shops will eject you if you try to consume edibles you bought there on the premises. Sit-down versus take-away. Shops sell goods, not services. Amenities offer a service which may include goods with the service. I don't think amenity=cafe + cuisine=ice_cream is a good fit unless there are other cuisines, so that you can have a light meal, in which case it's a cafe not an ice cream parlour. However well it might fit OSM syntax and semantics, mentally I don't class an ice cream parlour in the same category as a cafe. I'd be upset if I went to something represented by a cafe icon on a map only to find it was an ice cream parlour and didn't serve bacon sandwiches. YMMV. -- Paul
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