> 2. Re: RFC free_water (Paul Allen) > >>>>>Paul, one could imagine offering water in a glass? Or a carafe if for customers .... yes, we are combatting all single-use waste related to bottled water.
3. Re: RFC free_water (Paul Johnson) > >>>> Paul, an attempt to address multiple similarly themed comments at once. > > Message: 2 > Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 21:06:28 +0000 > From: Paul Allen <[email protected]> > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water > Message-ID: > <CAPy1dO+Y6+vODoGkauXsuy= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > On Fri, 17 Jan 2020 at 20:49, European Water Project < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > > 1. Is there free water available ? > > 2. For whom is it free ? if it is the case that there is free water > > available > > 3. If it is free for everyone, can you bring your own container ?. > > > > Do you know of any scheme where you are provided with a free container > along with your free water? I would suggest that if there is a charge for > supplying a container then the water is effectively not free. > > Even if the container were free, the whole point of these schemes is > to provide alternatives to people buying water in disposable containers > and encourage container re-use. > > -- > Paul > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20200117/3a6a8fb5/attachment-0001.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 15:29:57 -0600 > From: Paul Johnson <[email protected]> > To: "Tag discussion, strategy and related tools" > <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water > Message-ID: > <CAMPM96rDwMK1DF+ZmuDXXC=SVvAeKnYY4AxjaBJo1On= > [email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'm not sure what European Water Project is doing to break threading, but > could you kindly not do that? Most likely this is caused by replying to an > undigested digest, in which you really should be going with individual > delivery or using procmail to split the digest into individual messages > before replying. > > On Fri, Jan 17, 2020 at 2:48 PM European Water Project < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > 3. Re: RFC free_water (Alessandro Sarretta) > > > > >>>> Francois, Florimond, Alessandro, > > > > First, thanks to all of you for taking so much time to reflect on this > > subject which is core to our project. > > > > I see three concepts that need to be described. > > > > 1. Is there free water available ? > > 2. For whom is it free ? if it is the case that there is free water > > available > > 3. If it is free for everyone, can you bring your own container ?. > > > > Here are some alternatives which seem to be getting traction for each of > > the three concepts. I have removed free_water as it doesn't seem to be > > getting consensus. > > > > After feedback, I will update the draft proposal. > > > > For 1. > > charge:water=<free/fee> > > drinking_water:fee=yes/no > > tap_water:free=yes/no/customers > > > > > > For 2. > > access:water = <yes/no/customers> > > tap_water=yes/no/customers > > drinking_water:access=yes/no/customers > > > > For 3. > > container:water = <bring_own/provided> > > tap_water:container=* > > > > Best regards, > > > > Stuart > > > > > >> > >> > >> Message: 3 > >> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2020 20:25:28 +0100 > >> From: Alessandro Sarretta <[email protected]> > >> To: [email protected] > >> Subject: Re: [Tagging] RFC free_water > >> Message-ID: <[email protected]> > >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"; Format="flowed" > >> > >> Hi, > >> > >> On 17/01/20 12:08, European Water Project wrote: > >> > > >> > 2. Re: RFC free_water (François Lacombe) > >> > > >> > > >> > I see your point and agree it would be preferable to develop a more > >> > generalize nomenclature, but also think it is important to choose > >> > something that is understandable to a newbie. > >> > > >> > If we chose charge:water > >> > < > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:charge:water&action=edit&redlink=1 > >=free > >> > >> > < > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:charge:water%3Dfree&action=edit&redlink=1 > >we > >> > >> > would need to differentiate when the water is free to anyone (yes in > >> > OSM speak) or just paying customers (customers in OSM speak). > >> > > >> > We could use : > >> > charge:water > >> > < > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:charge:water&action=edit&redlink=1 > >=<free > >> > >> > < > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:charge:water%3Dfree&action=edit&redlink=1 > >> >/fee> > >> > access = <yes/no/customers> > >> > container = <bring_own/provided> > >> > > >> > In the above, European Water Project would only include cafés, bars, > >> > etc. with > >> > charge:water > >> > < > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Key:charge:water&action=edit&redlink=1 > >=free > >> > >> > < > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:charge:water%3Dfree&action=edit&redlink=1 > >> > > >> > access = yes > >> > container = bring_own > >> > >> If you use the tag /access/ alone, it could refer to the "main" feature > >> (the bar or restaurant...). > >> > >> And water is probably too general... I try suggesting to use > >> /tap_water/, that should clearly state that is not bottle water :-) > >> > >> So it could be: > >> > >> * tap_water=yes/no/customers > >> * tap_water:free=yes/no/customers > >> * tap_water:container=* > >> > >> This way it seems to me you should be able to cover all the > >> possibilities clearly. > >> > >> m2c > >> > >> Ale > >> > >> -------------- next part -------------- > >> An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > >> URL: < > >> > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20200117/b7f56b29/attachment.htm > >> > > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> Subject: Digest Footer > >> > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Tagging mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------ > >> > >> End of Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 120 > >> ***************************************** > >> > > _______________________________________________ > > Tagging mailing list > > [email protected] > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: < > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/tagging/attachments/20200117/d0409b97/attachment.htm > > > > ------------------------------ > > Subject: Digest Footer > > _______________________________________________ > Tagging mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging > > > ------------------------------ > > End of Tagging Digest, Vol 124, Issue 121 > ***************************************** >
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