On 27/1/20 6:24 pm, John Willis via Tagging wrote:
I agree with you that this is the scale that volcanologists use, but people want to draw a distinction between something that erupted recently compared sometime in the last 200 years

Perhaps it is easier to just apply the “active” and “Frequently active” tags via this third-party data source,

"frequently active " means what?

If it erupted last year .. but not for 200 years before that I'd not call it 'frequent'.


but it would completely remove mapper’s ability to add a mountain to this list via tagging.


Possibly "last_eruption=" if that is what you want???


What is really wanted is "next eruption=" and know one knows that :(


Possibly the things OSM can verify are

last_eruption=*

lava=yes/no


Is there anything else easily verifiable? And the next question is - who is going to use that data?


Inventing a separate schema seems like a bad idea, but I don’t think people understand “active” could mean an eruption before the industrial revolution, and people seem to want to add more granularity to this data. Maybe that is a bad idea, but should be considered.

Javbw

On Jan 27, 2020, at 3:14 PM, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected]> wrote:





On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 at 14:57, Graeme Fitzpatrick <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    I saw reference to this site a little while back (ironically, the
    morning of the White Island eruption in New Zealand :-()
    https://volcano.si.edu/faq/index.cfm?question=activevolcanoes

    So what do we say: 43 / 70 / 565 / 871 or 1428? :-)

    https://volcano.si.edu/faq/index.cfm?question=eov_noteworthy

    Or possibly the 71 "Frequently Active" listed here?

    As they say, it's hard to point at a volcano & say it's active or
    not!


Responding to my own post after looking at the site a bit more

How about using the common terms that everyone recognises, together with OSM definitions of:

Active - Known to have had major / multiple / fatal eruptions; frequently active; significant lava flows - the 186 volcanoes that are listed as "Noteworthy"

Dormant - probably the 1428 "Historically Active" - confirmed & likely historical eruptions (mixing historical & Holocene together)

Extinct - ain't nothing happening no more! :-)

This does, of course, relate to using info from that list. Do any of our US friends know how helpful the Smithsonian is when it comes to sharing data? https://www.si.edu/termsofuse/

  Thanks

Graeme

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