oseph Eisenberg <joseph.eisenb...@gmail.com>:

> 2) Many hedges which were mapped like areas are currently missing
> `area=yes` tags. In this comment
> (
> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/pull/3844#issuecomment-582692389
> )
> you can see that over 90% of the `barrier=hedge` closed ways in a
> Dutch province (random example) are missing `area=yes`, though they
> appear to be mapping the outline/area of the hedge. This means that a
> rendering solution that relies on `area=yes` would miss a large
> percentage of hedges mapped in this way. The situation is worse for
> barrier=wall.


Zeeland is a bad example, and absolute numbers are low. Not wise to base
decisions on that. Please check Noord-Brabant, Zuid-Holland, Utrecht.
Nederland as a whole did not have any problem with the wiki-conform
rendering, but it does have a huge problem with the current rendering which
does not conform to the wiki. If mappers do not conform to the wiki
documentation, the tagging is the error, and it is a good thing that that
is visible, so mappers will correct the mapping.

I agree that tagging could have been better defined. I am not against
simpler/cleaner/better tagging, if it helps renderers. The first thing to
do is to get the problem clear so that mappers can agree to find a better
solution. Then discuss solutions, including a change path. E.g. if a
solution would be to tag hedge areas as natural=hedge or landcover=hedge,
then the change path would be for the renderer to temporarily render the
old AND the new tagging, so mappers can edit the old tagging to the new
tagging. Then set an end of support date for the old tagging.
Would that be so hard?


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