My understanding was that the new tag "drinking_water:refill=yes" was going to imply that you can get water for free.
"An establishment participates in a water refill network and will fill up for free anyone's (paying customer or not) reusable bottle." - wiki page https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:drinking_water:refill So if a cafe or gas station will see you water for $0.75, that's quite different, and it would be incorrect to use "drinking_water:refill=yes" + "drinking_water:refill:fee=yes", according to your approved proposal and the documentation. But perhaps "drinking_water:fee=yes" could be proposed as an alternative, for places that only sell water. - Joseph Eisenberg On 3/10/20, European Water Project <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jake, > > > i strongly prefer paying 75 centimes for a ecologically sustainable water > bottle refill than being forced to buy a PET bottle filled with water > because there is no alternative. > > Whether they survive or not is for the market to decide ... the end result > is less single-use plastic... which is our objective... > > Best regards, > > Stuart > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2020, 09:32 Jake Edmonds via Tagging < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Is it worth adding drinking_water:refill:carbonated=yes/no, >> drinking_water:refill:chilled=yes/no >> and drinking_water:refill:alkaline=yes/no, etc (or >> drinking_water:refill:types=carbonated/chilled/alkaline). Then fee can be >> based on which types of water is charged for? >> >> Personally I can’t see myself paying for still or chilled water, but I >> would pay for carbonated. >> >> Info on alkaline water: https://www.enagic.com/ >> >> >> >> On 10 Mar 2020, at 09:13, European Water Project < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >> Dear All, >> >> I have been in contact with Stephanie Dick from Zero Bouteilles Plastique >> (copied), based in Arles, France regarding tagging establishments in >> OpenStreetMap offering water bottle refill for a small fee. Stephanie >> is >> also involved in Zero Waste France. >> >> The rationale for including establishments in a refill network which >> require a small payment is that they often need to add a cooling fountain >> or a fountain which offers fizzy water. Also allowing a store owner to >> charge for water refills is often the only way to get them to stop >> selling >> plastic bottles. >> >> I suggest adding an third key within the drinking_water:refill namespace, >> "drinking_water:refill:fee=yes" for establishments which charge a small >> fee >> for water bottle refills. >> >> The requirement to have a sticker or a sign showing the inclusion in a >> refill network or being an "independent" refiller is unchanged. >> >> If a tag is agreed, on our App we plan to differentiate between free and >> paying refill establishments using different colors. >> >> An example image of a water fountain in blue and a cafe in orange. >> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1RxP8r-Vtl8nWFiCiZ_8wIWmo-ULb5fta >> >> Best regards, >> >> Stuart >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Tagging mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging >> > _______________________________________________ Tagging mailing list [email protected] https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
