I created https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dhospital#Mapping_internal_hospital_structure
Extending, review etc is welcomed. Apr 13, 2020, 11:27 by [email protected]: > I think this is a case of “Things within other things”. How do we map that? > For the enclosing hospital, we know how to map that. But how do we map > individual parts within it? > > e.g. St. James' Hospital in Dublin (OSM: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/32015912 ), the hospital has it's own phone > number, `website` etc. Within that is a HIV (& STI) clinic > http://guideclinic.ie/ It has it's own website, and a specific location. How > should that be tagged? > > Beumount Hospital ( https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/22634348 ) has is > mapped and tagged. The Infection Disease service ( > http://www.beaumont.ie/index.jsp?p=105&n=227 ) is “located on the ground > floor in St Johns ward”, and has a phone number & email address. How can we > map this? > > OSM could do much better for indoor mapping, and for shopping centres or > train stations, that's easy. Add each `shop` or corridor. But what about a > (sorta of) clinic within a larger OSM object? > > On 13.04.20 10:48, Mikko Tamura wrote: > >> Thank you for the wonderful insights. Currently, what we are tagging is the >> hospital. So for example, Manila Hospital (tagged as a hospital) we add the >> tags like disease:hiv=yes. say that it is a treatment facility and it >> dispenses hiv medicine. But what i am having difficulty is that hiv facility >> is treated like a department. You can put in the email address and contact >> details of the hospital but if I add the contact details of the Hiv facility >> it then gets mixed with the hospital details. >> In this case A hospital can have a clinic specifically for HIV, and a clinic >> can also have a small office for HIV patients (not specifically another >> clinic). >> >> >> >> Thanks Joseph and Warin most. of the cases are really similar here. >> >> For treatment hubs - yes this is for inpatients similarly for the one you >> described. This is are mostly hospitals but in some cases clinics. My >> problem here is that a big hospital has alot of contact details for the >> hospital so the information and contact details for the hiv treatment >> facility are mixed. >> >> For hiv care - yes it is a bit of all a combination. I cant tagged it as a >> pharmacy as it only releases specific anti-retroviral drugs. >> >> Currently We are using this tagging system as assisted by the local OSM >> community in the Philippines. >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/HIV_Facilities_Tagging_(MapBeks) >> >> But I feel the feature gets overshadowed by the hospital/clinic/social >> facility/office tag. Your thoughts would be very helpful. >> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 3:58 PM Joseph Eisenberg <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> > Treatment hubs (in patient + dispensaries+ testing): >> >> Are you sure you mean "inpatient?" An "inpatient" facility, in >> American English, is a hospital which has beds where patients are >> cared for overnight. >> >> This would be mapped as amenity=hospital for the main feature, most >> likely. >> >> > primary hiv care (dispensaries+testing) >> >> You don't mention care by a nurse or physician, but I assume this is >> an amenity=clinic (with physicians and nurses) which also has an >> amenity=pharmacy in the same building. There might also be a >> healthcare=laboratory at the location. >> >> > testing centers/clinics (testing only) >> >> Is this a doctor's office, or is there just a nurse, or just a >> laboratory technician who can draw blood for the test? If there is a >> doctor, it might be an amenity=doctors. If there is just a laboratory >> for testing, that would be a healthcare=laboratory facility. >> >> For the speciality, it's possible to use something like >> healthcare:speciality=hiv if that's the only thing that the clinic >> treats. >> >> But here in Indonesia and back in the USA most clinics that treat HIV >> also offer treatment for other infectious conditions, so a different >> specialty like healthcare:speciality=infectious_diseases would usually >> be more correct. >> >> I see that in the Phillipines the tag "disease:hiv=yes" has been used: >> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/disease%3Ahiv#map >> >> In Indonesia and the USA you can get an HIV test at just about any >> healthcare=laboratory and larger clinics and all hospitals. But if you >> can only get this done at some specialized places in the Phillipines, >> you could consider adding a tag like "hiv_testing=yes/no" for clinics, >> doctor's offices, and laboratories. >> >> Similarly, in the USA it's normal to be able to get hiv medications >> from standard pharmacies. But if they are only available from a few >> pharmacies in your country, you could add a tag like >> "hiv_medication=yes/no" to an "amenity=pharmacy" facility. >> >> It looks like "medical_service:antiretroviral_therapy=yes" has been >> used in combination. That seems overlong and complex, so it would not >> have been my first choice: >> >> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/medical_service%3Aantiretroviral_therapy >> >> -- Joseph Eisenberg >> >> On 4/13/20, Warin <[email protected] >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> > At present there is the key healtcare. >> > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:healthcare >> > >> > Some initial thoughts? >> > >> > healthcare:specialty=HIV_testing >> > >> > healthcare:specialty=HIV_treatment >> > >> > HIV dispensary ... would be a pharmacy? >> > >> > amenity >> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:amenity>=pharmacy and >> > dispensing <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:dispensing>=HIV >> > >> > ???Hopefully there will be better ideas. >> > >> > On 13/4/20 4:32 pm, Mikko Tamura wrote: >> >> Good day, fellow OSM tagging experts. I would like to ask assistance >> >> in creating a tag for HIV facilities. We have created a tagging >> system >> >> for hiv facilities here in the Philippines but it seems to be too >> >> extensive. We would like it to be more simple. I hope you can >> help me >> >> with it. I am reading the wiki page and Im having a challenging time >> >> doing it. >> >> >> >> Some background: We have 3 types of HIV facilities/clinics. >> Treatment >> >> hubs (in patient + dispensaries+ testing), primary hiv care >> >> (dispensaries+testing) and testing centers/clinics (testing >> only). We >> >> have started tagging hospitals which have this features and >> honestly I >> >> am guessing this would eventually get mixed up with the other >> tagging >> >> like the contact number of the hospital, etc. Hopefully, we can >> >> represent it with a node with basic details specifically for that >> >> clinic/department. >> >> >> >> Hope someone can guide us and thank you in advance. >> >> -- >> >> * >> >> * >> >> * >> >> * >> >> *MIKKO L. 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