The tag landuse=common is different than leisure=common but the two seem to
be mixed up in this post.

The new tag landuse=common is not yet documented:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse=common
It has been used 197 times, but perhaps due to confusion with the more
common tag leisure=common:
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/landuse=common

The existing tag is leisure=common -
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure=common

-- Joseph Eisenberg

— Joseph Eisenberg

On Sun, May 3, 2020 at 8:14 AM Jean-Marc Liotier <j...@liotier.org> wrote:

> So, this discussion gravitates towards using landuse=common for those
> African urban freely accessible multipurpose open spaces, which I fully
> support.
>
> Implementing this change requires the following actions:
>
> - Editing the leisure=common wiki page, in French and in English (I'll do
> that)
>
> - Reinstating the rendering of leisure=common in downstream cartographic
> styles, would be even better if the color matched the surface=* so that
> sandy surfaces don't appear green.
>
> - Reinstating the rendering of leisure=common in JOSM's default style (it
> recently changed to grey to mark deprecation). (I'll open a JOSM ticket
>
> - Altering QA rules (JOSM Validator and Osmose) so that the leisure=common
> deprecation only applies to the United Kingdom of Great Britain, where
> commons have a legal definition and designation=common must be used for
> them. (I'll open a JOSM ticket but if someone has prior experience
> interacting with the Osmose people, that would be nice)
>
>
> On 5/3/20 4:19 PM, severin.menard via Tagging wrote:
>
> Je suis d'accord avec Pierre : le tag landuse=common convient bien à ces
> espaces ouverts dans les villages et villes africaines et un parc n'a pas
> grand-chose à voir avec.
> ----
> I agree with Pierre: the tag landuse=common is well suited to these open
> spaces in African villages and towns and a park has little to do with it.
>
>
> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
> Le mercredi 29 avril 2020 21:59, Pierre Béland via Talk-ml
> <talk...@openstreetmap.org> <talk...@openstreetmap.org> a écrit :
>
> Like others, I did map many of these. I can tell you that we often see a
> common space in center of african villages, often near the school,  and  it
> is surely not green and have no facilities like in the Nordic countries
> parks.
>
> People have to understand that there are often no infrastructures in
> African villages. But young people still gather and play.
>
> I dont think that the OSM tagging schema should reflect the legal status
> in specific countries like UK. Various tags can reflect various realities.
> And leisure=common seems to be quite well adapted to Africa and dont exist
> to stretch the legal defininition of UK.
>
> When the tag is used in UK, I would understand that the UK contributors
> want to follow a certain rule particular to their country.
>
> But I dont agree to deprecate the the leisure=common tag for Africa.
>
>
>
> Le mercredi 29 avril 2020 15 h 34 min 57 s UTC−4, Jean-Marc Liotier
> <j...@liotier.org> <j...@liotier.org> a écrit :
>
>
> Here is a 360° picture of a square in Dakar:
> https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/jYNQFMwHiNEZRCnpi71heA - larger than a
> street (it occupies a whole city block), used as a multipurpose common
> area (pickup soccer games are a staple but parking or lounging around
> also occur, and the occasional popular event) and usually surfaced with
> sand or whatever the ground is.
>
> We have long tagged it leisure=common (389 ways in Senegal and 486 in
> Mali according to http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/TqN) - which is a bit of
> stretch from the British legal definition, but worked well enough and
> did not conflict with its British usage. But leisure=common is now
> deprecated
>
> So, what should we use instead ?
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dcommon suggests using
> leisure=park - which isn't too much of a stretch functionally but evokes
> greenery that does not occur here (though British commons are just as
> green and we were happy with leisure=common)... Any other ideas ? Or I'm
> going to use leisure=park+surface=sand !
>
>
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