May 26, 2020, 08:28 by [email protected]: > Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging <[email protected]> wrote: > >> May 25, 2020, 02:45 by [email protected]: >> >>> >>> [access=private driveways implicitly permitting delivieries to destination?] >>> >>> Not all deliveries are actively requested, and the delivery person can't >>> know if you requested it or not. >>> >> >> Good point. Maybe it can be argued that there is implicit permission for >> delivery services? >> My uncle has farm, with clearly private yard (it is unsigned). >> >> Postman or package delivery would be welcomed there and - even if package >> would not be requested, but random person driving to >> front of his house would not be and AFAIK would violate law. >> > > I think what you're describing is access=destination, not =private. > Why? "access=destination" means "no transit traffic, no other restrictions". What changes nothing for a typical driveway. >> [...] >> >>> FWIW, I'm less happy with the current state of the access=private page. But >>> I'm not sure if consensus exists to clarify it. >>> >> What is wrong and how you want to change it? >> > > It does not specifiy precisely what the tag value =private means. It also > doesn't make a clear enough distinction between private ownership and private > access (by using the term "private" colloqiually and by showing a picture of > what looks like an ownership=private situation). > Changed a bit in https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Tag:access%3Dprivate&diff=1995183&oldid=1986562 > I think the =private wiki page could be improved by clarifying that =private > really does require _explicit_ prior permission. The "Facilities" section > already mentions "a closed group of users", which implies just that, but > evidently this isn't very clear. > I added "Permission may be implicit, for example delivering a package into a house." on Key:Access and Tag:access=private pages, as it appears to match the actual usage. > Additionally, the language generally could use a bit of cleanup, the relation > to alternatives like =destination should be mentioned > destination mentioned > (I might take a swing at this if I find the time.) > Yeah, fully resolving this (not just parts that I quoted) will take plenty of time.
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