On Tue, 30 Jun 2020 at 23:20, Paul Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > Except we don't have seating=yes. We can differentiate > with takeaway=yes|no|only. However, apart from the chip shop and a > Greggs, all > the fast food joints near me that I can recollect are takeaway=only. >
But then how do we handle food places in food courts? They would all count as =fast_food, as everything is already cooked / prepared, & they are takeaway only from the actual shopfront, but there is seating & tables 5m's away, so are they takeaway or sit-down? On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 03:16, Paul Allen <[email protected]> wrote: > What has happened is that some parts of the world interpret it differently. > Which is not a good thing. > But I think we have to, because "cafes" vary so much? As mentioned by Feket, a coffeehouse usually also has something to "go >> with" your coffee, tea or other beverage, like a sandwich, a snack or >> even a piece of pie or cake they purchased (possibly from a >> cukrászda). > > > That's the problem. Where do you draw the line? Is a piece of cake food? > When I was working at the Uni several years ago, we'd go over to one of the coffee shops for morning coffee. It was a kiosk only, & they only served tea & coffee, together with bottled water & you could also buy bottles of milk from them to take back to the staff kitchens. Fine, so it's a =coffeeshop. But, they also had a container on the counter full of biscuits (cookies) for sale! Does that then make them a cafe? Similar to the food-court set-up ^, there were tables & chairs out the front, but not for their exclusive use - anybody could sit & have a chat, coffee or eat their lunch that they'd brought from somewhere else. > A fast food restaurant, also known as a quick service restaurant (QSR) >> within the industry, > > > British English. and maybe just MY British English, but they're not > restaurants. To marketroids they may be, but to me they're not. > & I agree with you, even though it was me that mentioned it! :-) On Wed, 1 Jul 2020 at 05:13, Gábor Fekete <[email protected]> wrote: > > It's about the main function. In an imagined daily routine (similarly to > Bkil), coffeehouse (and cukrászda) is the place of some social life after > or between meals. One can arrange a date with his/her (girl)friend, or even > a meeting with a business partner for a short talk in a posh coffeehouse in > a calm ambience (soft chillout music, porcelain tableware). It's not about > the food or the coffee :) > That (at least to me?) then raises the problem of opening hours (which I know can easily be defined). The vast majority of "cafes / coffee shops" (places you can get a tea / coffee & a light meal) around here open at ~6am, but they then close at ~2-3pm - they're not open after work or for an evening meal. Similarly, most restaurants (full table service of a multi-course meal) don't open till ~6pm, then stay open till 11-12. Does that affect the cafe / restaurant definition dilemma? Thanks Graeme
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